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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/internet/is-mcdonalds-doing-comment-spam-now/#comment-29734</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As noted in the update to the original post, &lt;a href=&quot;http://stilgherrian.com/internet/mcdonalds-pranked-with-second-fake-memo/&quot;&gt;this new purported McDonald&#039;s memo is itself a fake&lt;/a&gt;. The comment spam attempt was not from McDonald&#039;s. So who was it and why?

I&#039;ll close comments here. By all means &lt;a href=&quot;http://stilgherrian.com/internet/mcdonalds-pranked-with-second-fake-memo/#respond&quot;&gt;continue the discussion on the new post&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As noted in the update to the original post, <a href="http://stilgherrian.com/internet/mcdonalds-pranked-with-second-fake-memo/">this new purported McDonald&#8217;s memo is itself a fake</a>. The comment spam attempt was not from McDonald&#8217;s. So who was it and why?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll close comments here. By all means <a href="http://stilgherrian.com/internet/mcdonalds-pranked-with-second-fake-memo/#respond">continue the discussion on the new post</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian &#183; McDonald&#8217;s pranked with second fake memo</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/internet/is-mcdonalds-doing-comment-spam-now/#comment-29732</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian &#183; McDonald&#8217;s pranked with second fake memo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] supposed leaked memo from McDonald&#8217;s that I wrote about on Saturday is itself a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bob Bain</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/internet/is-mcdonalds-doing-comment-spam-now/#comment-29723</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Bain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@stilgherrian on the Maccers UK site they refer to chips as fries and it&#039;s even the case in India  http://www.mcdonaldsindia.com/menu.html

There instead of a Big Mac it&#039;s possible to purchase a Chicken Maharaja Mac, a Fillet-O-Fish, a McChicken or a McVeggie (with fries) but there appears to be no beef based burgers.

For those with the time it&#039;s interesting to compare MacDonalds sites around the globe.

I&#039;m unable to translate the Chinese menu as it&#039;s written in funny characters that I don&#039;t understand (apart from Coca-Cola).

http://www.mcdonalds.com.cn/

Here&#039;s a list of countries that MacDonald&#039;s have franchises in and the year they commenced in each country.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_McDonald&#039;s_franchises&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_McDonald&#039;s_franchises&lt;/a&gt;

There&#039;s also a list of countries where MacDonald&#039;s don&#039;t have a presence but they have an outlet listed for Guantanamo Bay Naval Base (Not available to Cuban Residents).

Perhaps this is a form of torture that should be investigated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@stilgherrian on the Maccers UK site they refer to chips as fries and it&#8217;s even the case in India  <a href="http://www.mcdonaldsindia.com/menu.html" >http://www.mcdonaldsindia.com/menu.html</a></p>
<p>There instead of a Big Mac it&#8217;s possible to purchase a Chicken Maharaja Mac, a Fillet-O-Fish, a McChicken or a McVeggie (with fries) but there appears to be no beef based burgers.</p>
<p>For those with the time it&#8217;s interesting to compare MacDonalds sites around the globe.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m unable to translate the Chinese menu as it&#8217;s written in funny characters that I don&#8217;t understand (apart from Coca-Cola).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mcdonalds.com.cn/" >http://www.mcdonalds.com.cn/</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a list of countries that MacDonald&#8217;s have franchises in and the year they commenced in each country.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_McDonald's_franchises">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_McDonald&#039;s_franchises</a></p>
<p>There&#8217;s also a list of countries where MacDonald&#8217;s don&#8217;t have a presence but they have an outlet listed for Guantanamo Bay Naval Base (Not available to Cuban Residents).</p>
<p>Perhaps this is a form of torture that should be investigated.</p>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Sean Carmody:&lt;/strong&gt; Sir, &quot;chip glossing&quot; is truly glorious! But... I do often ask for &quot;crisps&quot; at the pub, not &quot;chips&quot;, when I want the things in a packet as opposed to what the kitchen will quickly deep-fry for me. I often get confused looks in return. Mind you, that might be for something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Sean Carmody:</strong> Sir, &#8220;chip glossing&#8221; is truly glorious! But&#8230; I do often ask for &#8220;crisps&#8221; at the pub, not &#8220;chips&#8221;, when I want the things in a packet as opposed to what the kitchen will quickly deep-fry for me. I often get confused looks in return. Mind you, that might be for something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Carmody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Carmody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to the chip glossing, if British English really reigned supreme in Australia, we&#039;d be popping bags of Kettle Crisps in the pub, not Kettle Chips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to the chip glossing, if British English really reigned supreme in Australia, we&#8217;d be popping bags of Kettle Crisps in the pub, not Kettle Chips.</p>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the weekend I heard from a person whose firm does some PR for McDonald&#039;s. They said they know of no social media campaign that would fit my speculation, and that if they were doing any blog comments for McDonald&#039;s they&#039;d identify themselves.

Which is what I&#039;d have thought from a reputable PR firm.

&lt;strong&gt;@Kirk Broadhurst:&lt;/strong&gt; What you say reinforces my comment about McDonald&#039;s being &lt;em&gt;the&lt;/em&gt; big fast food chain that haters of big fast food chains love to hate.

If someone has defamed a business or caused them to lose money through malicious or reckless actions, that business is perfectly entitled to pursue legal action. The case would then be considered on its merits. But because the business in this instance is McDonald&#039;s, they&#039;re more likely to be seen as the corporate monsters attacking the little guy.

Curious, eh?

&lt;strong&gt;@Bob Bain:&lt;/strong&gt; I don&#039;t know that a typo takes away from the verisimilitude of the original fake email. I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve seen plenty of poor writing in internal communications!

Yes, &quot;fries&quot; is originally an American English word but &lt;a href=&quot;http://mcdonalds.com.au/our-food/menu/#/sides-and-salads&quot;&gt;it&#039;s the word McDonald&#039;s use&lt;/a&gt;.

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Macquarie Dictionary&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; glosses it as:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;fries&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;plural noun&lt;/em&gt; → &lt;strong&gt;French fries&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And that in turn is glossed:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;French fries&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;plural noun&lt;/em&gt; thin strips of potatoes fried in deep fat; chips. Also, &lt;strong&gt;French fried potatoes&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In modern linguistics practice, a dictionary reports on English usage, it doesn&#039;t make value judgements. Here the &lt;em&gt;Macquarie&lt;/em&gt; is noting that &quot;fries&quot; is considered standard Australian English usage -- because it&#039;s not marked &quot;colloquial&quot; or regional or in any other way which would show limited usage -- but it does define it in terms of &quot;chips&quot;, which in turn is glossed in more detail, indicating that &quot;chips&quot; is the term with a longer pedigree.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;3.&lt;/strong&gt; Also, &lt;strong&gt;potato chip&lt;/strong&gt;.
a. a deep-fried finger of potato.
b. a thin slice of potato, fried and salted, usually eaten cold; crisp; potato crisp.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The &lt;em&gt;Macquarie&lt;/em&gt; does not consider that words are &quot;better&quot; if they first derive from British English rather than American English. Indeed, the preface goes to some pains to point out that Australian English is its own master, choosing words from many sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the weekend I heard from a person whose firm does some PR for McDonald&#8217;s. They said they know of no social media campaign that would fit my speculation, and that if they were doing any blog comments for McDonald&#8217;s they&#8217;d identify themselves.</p>
<p>Which is what I&#8217;d have thought from a reputable PR firm.</p>
<p><strong>@Kirk Broadhurst:</strong> What you say reinforces my comment about McDonald&#8217;s being <em>the</em> big fast food chain that haters of big fast food chains love to hate.</p>
<p>If someone has defamed a business or caused them to lose money through malicious or reckless actions, that business is perfectly entitled to pursue legal action. The case would then be considered on its merits. But because the business in this instance is McDonald&#8217;s, they&#8217;re more likely to be seen as the corporate monsters attacking the little guy.</p>
<p>Curious, eh?</p>
<p><strong>@Bob Bain:</strong> I don&#8217;t know that a typo takes away from the verisimilitude of the original fake email. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve seen plenty of poor writing in internal communications!</p>
<p>Yes, &#8220;fries&#8221; is originally an American English word but <a href="http://mcdonalds.com.au/our-food/menu/#/sides-and-salads">it&#8217;s the word McDonald&#8217;s use</a>.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/"><em>Macquarie Dictionary</em></a> glosses it as:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>fries</strong> <em>plural noun</em> → <strong>French fries</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>And that in turn is glossed:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>French fries</strong> <em>plural noun</em> thin strips of potatoes fried in deep fat; chips. Also, <strong>French fried potatoes</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>In modern linguistics practice, a dictionary reports on English usage, it doesn&#8217;t make value judgements. Here the <em>Macquarie</em> is noting that &#8220;fries&#8221; is considered standard Australian English usage &#8212; because it&#8217;s not marked &#8220;colloquial&#8221; or regional or in any other way which would show limited usage &#8212; but it does define it in terms of &#8220;chips&#8221;, which in turn is glossed in more detail, indicating that &#8220;chips&#8221; is the term with a longer pedigree.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>3.</strong> Also, <strong>potato chip</strong>.<br />
a. a deep-fried finger of potato.<br />
b. a thin slice of potato, fried and salted, usually eaten cold; crisp; potato crisp.</p></blockquote>
<p>The <em>Macquarie</em> does not consider that words are &#8220;better&#8221; if they first derive from British English rather than American English. Indeed, the preface goes to some pains to point out that Australian English is its own master, choosing words from many sources.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Bain</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/internet/is-mcdonalds-doing-comment-spam-now/#comment-29707</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Bain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 04:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoever wrote the allegedly fake &quot;internal memo&quot; may have used a spellchecker before publishing it but it does say FIRES instead of FRIES.

Are the underpaid workers now instructed to ask &quot;Would you like fires with that ?&quot; rather than &quot;Would you like fries with that ?&quot;

BTW: &quot;fries&quot; is an Americanism.  In British countries they are called chips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever wrote the allegedly fake &#8220;internal memo&#8221; may have used a spellchecker before publishing it but it does say FIRES instead of FRIES.</p>
<p>Are the underpaid workers now instructed to ask &#8220;Would you like fires with that ?&#8221; rather than &#8220;Would you like fries with that ?&#8221;</p>
<p>BTW: &#8220;fries&#8221; is an Americanism.  In British countries they are called chips.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Broadhurst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk Broadhurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There could quite easily be 372 McDonald&#039;s proprietors around the country.

I just don&#039;t see why this would have been leaked.  It&#039;s not really positive PR for McDonald&#039;s.

&quot;We have spoken to police and are in the process of filing charges against Thorne. We are also speaking with legal regarding a possible law suit.&quot; - this just reinforces a widespread negative perception of Maccas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There could quite easily be 372 McDonald&#8217;s proprietors around the country.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t see why this would have been leaked.  It&#8217;s not really positive PR for McDonald&#8217;s.</p>
<p>&#8220;We have spoken to police and are in the process of filing charges against Thorne. We are also speaking with legal regarding a possible law suit.&#8221; &#8211; this just reinforces a widespread negative perception of Maccas.</p>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@George:&lt;/strong&gt; What you say about central control of PR is likely to be true in an organisation the size of McDonald&#039;s. But that said, many stores are owned by franchisees. They may have their own contacts with local media with whom they speak informally.

Still, in every other way it looks a suitably corporate message. While your point does take a &lt;em&gt;little&lt;/em&gt; shine off it, I&#039;m still with it being a genuine memo. For now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@George:</strong> What you say about central control of PR is likely to be true in an organisation the size of McDonald&#8217;s. But that said, many stores are owned by franchisees. They may have their own contacts with local media with whom they speak informally.</p>
<p>Still, in every other way it looks a suitably corporate message. While your point does take a <em>little</em> shine off it, I&#8217;m still with it being a genuine memo. For now.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No way would there be 372 people authorised to speak to the media as the recipient list indicates even if it is a pre-determined statement. If they work anything like where I do, the email would have simply been along the lines of &quot;all media enquiries should be referred to person x (or dept x)&quot; and remind everyone that they are not authorised to comment. I doubt they would have more than a handful of people who deal with the media; any more and the message gets distorted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No way would there be 372 people authorised to speak to the media as the recipient list indicates even if it is a pre-determined statement. If they work anything like where I do, the email would have simply been along the lines of &#8220;all media enquiries should be referred to person x (or dept x)&#8221; and remind everyone that they are not authorised to comment. I doubt they would have more than a handful of people who deal with the media; any more and the message gets distorted.</p>
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