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		<title>By: Stilgherrian &#183; Are clueless politicians holding back IT?</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/internet/managers_must_understand_computers/#comment-30407</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian &#183; Are clueless politicians holding back IT?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] year I wrote about this in the business context, &#8220;I don&#8217;t understand computers&#8221; is not an excuse.  If you own or manage a business that handles information (and which business doesn’t?) then you [...]</description>
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		<title>By: krangsquared</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/internet/managers_must_understand_computers/#comment-16958</link>
		<dc:creator>krangsquared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your comparisons with motor vehicles. Very apt. Nobody&#039;s afraid of trucks and cars, and most have some ability to troubleshoot it when things fail. Or at least to know what bit is which. Not so with computers. There still seems to be this air of mystery about them for some people, and a reluctance to engage them and/or gain something beyond basic &quot;how do you start Word and Excel&quot; kind of competence on them.

I think one problem for non-techie people engaging with computers, in the sense of knowing what&#039;s wrong and how to deal with them, is the fact that software errors are *extremely* baffling and the interaction (or infighting) between Windows and whatever software is running can be very confusing. When things go wrong it is frequently unclear which bit of software is stuffing things up. The usual response is to just turn the damn thing off and see what happens. Resetting works a treat for electrical/ electronic appliances, why not computers  - the thinking goes.

Great blog. Added to my bookmarks. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your comparisons with motor vehicles. Very apt. Nobody&#8217;s afraid of trucks and cars, and most have some ability to troubleshoot it when things fail. Or at least to know what bit is which. Not so with computers. There still seems to be this air of mystery about them for some people, and a reluctance to engage them and/or gain something beyond basic &#8220;how do you start Word and Excel&#8221; kind of competence on them.</p>
<p>I think one problem for non-techie people engaging with computers, in the sense of knowing what&#8217;s wrong and how to deal with them, is the fact that software errors are *extremely* baffling and the interaction (or infighting) between Windows and whatever software is running can be very confusing. When things go wrong it is frequently unclear which bit of software is stuffing things up. The usual response is to just turn the damn thing off and see what happens. Resetting works a treat for electrical/ electronic appliances, why not computers  &#8211; the thinking goes.</p>
<p>Great blog. Added to my bookmarks. <img src='http://stilgherrian.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tech Wired Australia - An Australian Technology Blog and Podcast &#187; Australia&#8217;s Internet Censorship Plan: Where Are We At?</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/internet/managers_must_understand_computers/#comment-15218</link>
		<dc:creator>Tech Wired Australia - An Australian Technology Blog and Podcast &#187; Australia&#8217;s Internet Censorship Plan: Where Are We At?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] see with Senator Stephen Conroy. The issue with managing a portfolio based on Technology is you need to know the language, as many know that technology can be at times difficult to understand.  &#160;Standard Podcast: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pastor Geek</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/internet/managers_must_understand_computers/#comment-13133</link>
		<dc:creator>Pastor Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your observation that this is mostly aimed at small businesses is true. But they at least have the excuse that they are busy trying to keep customers happy and stay in business. My neighbor is a small business owner. He runs a main street clothing store (not a franchise, his own honest to goodness store) and he does a good job at that, but every so often, I have to help him with computer things.

It&#039;s the corporations that don&#039;t have this excuse. Nearly everything they do touches computers in some way. Do you think the finance folks add numbers by hand anymore? Point of Sale is handled by computerized tills that send the transaction data back to HQ to be crunched by more computers. Inventory data is all stored electronically. HR records are computerized. Payroll is often done by direct deposit. (They get quite unhappy when you ask them to generate old fashioned checks!)

As a geek, it has long been drilled into me (over 20 years) that I need to understand the business that I&#039;m supporting. I have worked in several different industries and have made substantial efforts to understand them, so that I can write my software better to solve their business problems. I have rarely found the favor returned by business folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your observation that this is mostly aimed at small businesses is true. But they at least have the excuse that they are busy trying to keep customers happy and stay in business. My neighbor is a small business owner. He runs a main street clothing store (not a franchise, his own honest to goodness store) and he does a good job at that, but every so often, I have to help him with computer things.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the corporations that don&#8217;t have this excuse. Nearly everything they do touches computers in some way. Do you think the finance folks add numbers by hand anymore? Point of Sale is handled by computerized tills that send the transaction data back to HQ to be crunched by more computers. Inventory data is all stored electronically. HR records are computerized. Payroll is often done by direct deposit. (They get quite unhappy when you ask them to generate old fashioned checks!)</p>
<p>As a geek, it has long been drilled into me (over 20 years) that I need to understand the business that I&#8217;m supporting. I have worked in several different industries and have made substantial efforts to understand them, so that I can write my software better to solve their business problems. I have rarely found the favor returned by business folks.</p>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@tim:&lt;/strong&gt; I agree that business schools perhaps need to include more stuff than just money -- I say &quot;perhaps&quot; because I&#039;ve never looked at what business schools actually do. Then again, &lt;em&gt;small&lt;/em&gt; businesses probably aren&#039;t run by people with tertiary-level business qualifications. Only bigger businesses tend to have &quot;professional managers&quot;.

That said, the main point is really about continuing eduction. In the 21st Century I don&#039;t think we can expect to learn stuff at a school and then have that make do for the rest of our working lives -- in &lt;em&gt;any&lt;/em&gt; field. Things move to fast and we all need to be able to pick it up by osmosis.

Maybe we need to be teaching people &quot;how to learn&quot; rather than &quot;how to do skill X&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@tim:</strong> I agree that business schools perhaps need to include more stuff than just money &#8212; I say &#8220;perhaps&#8221; because I&#8217;ve never looked at what business schools actually do. Then again, <em>small</em> businesses probably aren&#8217;t run by people with tertiary-level business qualifications. Only bigger businesses tend to have &#8220;professional managers&#8221;.</p>
<p>That said, the main point is really about continuing eduction. In the 21st Century I don&#8217;t think we can expect to learn stuff at a school and then have that make do for the rest of our working lives &#8212; in <em>any</em> field. Things move to fast and we all need to be able to pick it up by osmosis.</p>
<p>Maybe we need to be teaching people &#8220;how to learn&#8221; rather than &#8220;how to do skill X&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/internet/managers_must_understand_computers/#comment-11430</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Business schools tend to be pretty good at teaching concepts like &quot;money&quot;.  They don&#039;t tend to teach concepts like &quot;the difference between routers and firewalls&quot; at all.  Computer geeks like us pick it up by osmosis, or reading geeky technical documents, or other routes that businesspeople probably don&#039;t even know about.

Perhaps your rant would be more appropriately directed against business schools that graduate students without teaching them the knowledge they need in this century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Business schools tend to be pretty good at teaching concepts like &#8220;money&#8221;.  They don&#8217;t tend to teach concepts like &#8220;the difference between routers and firewalls&#8221; at all.  Computer geeks like us pick it up by osmosis, or reading geeky technical documents, or other routes that businesspeople probably don&#8217;t even know about.</p>
<p>Perhaps your rant would be more appropriately directed against business schools that graduate students without teaching them the knowledge they need in this century.</p>
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		<title>By: Prussia.Net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; “I don’t understand computers” is not an excuse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prussia.Net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; “I don’t understand computers” is not an excuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: It is about people; not the technology</title>
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		<dc:creator>It is about people; not the technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 06:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of his posts, there are still a large number of business decision makers out there who use the “I don’t understand computers” excuse to offload IT decisions to the IT managers (if they have one) or the marketing department of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/internet/managers_must_understand_computers/#comment-10242</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Quatrefoil:&lt;/strong&gt; Your observation that...

&lt;blockquote&gt;... asking my geek friends questions along the lines of ‘I’m having this kind of problem with windows’ tends to get me answers like ‘Nobody uses windows, it’s a pile of crap’.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

... is almost exactly why I said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Geeks usually get this wrong, and berate “stupid users” for not knowing how the technology works.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Apart from &quot;nobody uses Windows&quot; being demonstrably wrong, that response is a combination of arrogance (I won&#039;t even bother considering the question asked) and ignorance (in many cases it would be extremely expensive, if not impossible, for someone to move their work to a different platform).

On the latter point, I have clients whose entire business is run on an off-the-shelf vertically-integrated application for their specific industry. Moving from its Windows environment is not an option without writing a completely new application (tens of thousands of dollars) and completely re-training all of their staff (ditto).

More and more I reckon there&#039;s a market for information aimed at small business owners or individual users that&#039;s &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; about the technology and wee-whiz factor as such, and &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; funded primarily by the vendors, so it has a chance of being neutral.

Lots of good thoughts triggered here. I shall return to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Quatrefoil:</strong> Your observation that&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230; asking my geek friends questions along the lines of ‘I’m having this kind of problem with windows’ tends to get me answers like ‘Nobody uses windows, it’s a pile of crap’.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230; is almost exactly why I said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Geeks usually get this wrong, and berate “stupid users” for not knowing how the technology works.</p></blockquote>
<p>Apart from &#8220;nobody uses Windows&#8221; being demonstrably wrong, that response is a combination of arrogance (I won&#8217;t even bother considering the question asked) and ignorance (in many cases it would be extremely expensive, if not impossible, for someone to move their work to a different platform).</p>
<p>On the latter point, I have clients whose entire business is run on an off-the-shelf vertically-integrated application for their specific industry. Moving from its Windows environment is not an option without writing a completely new application (tens of thousands of dollars) and completely re-training all of their staff (ditto).</p>
<p>More and more I reckon there&#8217;s a market for information aimed at small business owners or individual users that&#8217;s <em>not</em> about the technology and wee-whiz factor as such, and <em>not</em> funded primarily by the vendors, so it has a chance of being neutral.</p>
<p>Lots of good thoughts triggered here. I shall return to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Quatrefoil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quatrefoil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with asking &#039;The Internetz&#039; about things you don&#039;t understand is that it&#039;s hard to ask the right question, or necessarily understand the answer even if you have.  I usually go to wikipedia for the cut down racing version of what something is, and that tends to work up to a point, but it&#039;s not so good for questions along the lines of &#039;do I really need to buy an x&#039; variety.  

I&#039;ve also discovered that asking my geek friends questions along the lines of &#039;I&#039;m having this kind of problem with windows&#039; tends to get me answers like &#039;Nobody uses windows, it&#039;s a pile of crap&#039;.  Which may well be true, but if it&#039;s the environment you&#039;re stuck with, it doesn&#039;t get you very far.  I really think there&#039;s a market out there for training People Like Me who will be making decisions about what to buy.  I get very frustrated with geeks who make the assumption that I&#039;m stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with asking &#8216;The Internetz&#8217; about things you don&#8217;t understand is that it&#8217;s hard to ask the right question, or necessarily understand the answer even if you have.  I usually go to wikipedia for the cut down racing version of what something is, and that tends to work up to a point, but it&#8217;s not so good for questions along the lines of &#8216;do I really need to buy an x&#8217; variety.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also discovered that asking my geek friends questions along the lines of &#8216;I&#8217;m having this kind of problem with windows&#8217; tends to get me answers like &#8216;Nobody uses windows, it&#8217;s a pile of crap&#8217;.  Which may well be true, but if it&#8217;s the environment you&#8217;re stuck with, it doesn&#8217;t get you very far.  I really think there&#8217;s a market out there for training People Like Me who will be making decisions about what to buy.  I get very frustrated with geeks who make the assumption that I&#8217;m stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/internet/managers_must_understand_computers/#comment-10215</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Eric TF Bat:&lt;/strong&gt; Excellent addition, thank you! In fact, I have that very issue with a client today who&#039;s asked for a recommendation for a tool (for an as-yet-undefined project, of course!) when it sounds like they&#039;re really looking at custom work.

Another client avoided having to spend thousands on a custom membership management system by linking their simple, existing membership database to MYOB with just $500 of programming.

&lt;strong&gt;@Quatrefoil:&lt;/strong&gt; Good question. I shall take that as an on-notice one. Immediate but less useful answer would be &quot;Teh Internetz&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Eric TF Bat:</strong> Excellent addition, thank you! In fact, I have that very issue with a client today who&#8217;s asked for a recommendation for a tool (for an as-yet-undefined project, of course!) when it sounds like they&#8217;re really looking at custom work.</p>
<p>Another client avoided having to spend thousands on a custom membership management system by linking their simple, existing membership database to MYOB with just $500 of programming.</p>
<p><strong>@Quatrefoil:</strong> Good question. I shall take that as an on-notice one. Immediate but less useful answer would be &#8220;Teh Internetz&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Quatrefoil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quatrefoil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was useful.  I&#039;ve always been a reasonably intelligent user, with enough of a knowledge of information management to talk to the geeks to get what I want, but in recent years I&#039;ve fallen behind.  Where would you suggest I go to upgrade the kind of knowledge you&#039;re talking about, given that I don&#039;t want to do a programming course?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was useful.  I&#8217;ve always been a reasonably intelligent user, with enough of a knowledge of information management to talk to the geeks to get what I want, but in recent years I&#8217;ve fallen behind.  Where would you suggest I go to upgrade the kind of knowledge you&#8217;re talking about, given that I don&#8217;t want to do a programming course?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric TF Bat</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/internet/managers_must_understand_computers/#comment-10201</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric TF Bat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d add this:

&lt;b&gt;Know the difference between shrinkwrap and custom-built software.&lt;/b&gt;  Sometimes a task can be automated with an Excel spreadsheet or a copy of Quicken.  Other times you need to hire programmers or buy software from someone who writes it for you.  You need to be able to make a judgement as to when that&#039;s necessary, and have a good idea of how long you&#039;d expect a software development project to take and how much you&#039;ll need to pay.

It may be costly to get someone in to write the software to handle sales and ordering for your little shop selling hand-knitted Etruscan snoods, but if you try doing it in Excel you&#039;ll quickly fall in a heap forcing your entire business to fit into rows and columns, but buying a generic inventory program off the shelf won&#039;t help you deal with the tricky bits involved with the different grades of Carthaginian yak wool and their effect on knitting time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d add this:</p>
<p><b>Know the difference between shrinkwrap and custom-built software.</b>  Sometimes a task can be automated with an Excel spreadsheet or a copy of Quicken.  Other times you need to hire programmers or buy software from someone who writes it for you.  You need to be able to make a judgement as to when that&#8217;s necessary, and have a good idea of how long you&#8217;d expect a software development project to take and how much you&#8217;ll need to pay.</p>
<p>It may be costly to get someone in to write the software to handle sales and ordering for your little shop selling hand-knitted Etruscan snoods, but if you try doing it in Excel you&#8217;ll quickly fall in a heap forcing your entire business to fit into rows and columns, but buying a generic inventory program off the shelf won&#8217;t help you deal with the tricky bits involved with the different grades of Carthaginian yak wool and their effect on knitting time.</p>
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