<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: So let&#8217;s just start our own telco, eh?</title>
	<atom:link href="http://stilgherrian.com/internet/so-lets-just-start-our-own-telco-eh/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://stilgherrian.com/internet/so-lets-just-start-our-own-telco-eh/</link>
	<description>All publication is a political act. All communication is propaganda. All art is pornography. All business is personal. All hail Eris. Vive les poissons rouges sauvages!</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 06:59:03 +1100</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/internet/so-lets-just-start-our-own-telco-eh/#comment-13258</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://stilgherrian.com/?p=1702#comment-13258</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Snif:&lt;/strong&gt; You&#039;re quite right. Using my Nokia N80 just now on a Vodafone 3G plan, &lt;a href=&quot;http://smh.com.au&quot;&gt;smh.com.au&lt;/a&gt; detects that I&#039;m on a mobile device and bounces me to &lt;a href=&quot;http://mobile.smh.com.au&quot;&gt;mobile.smh.com.au&lt;/a&gt; to deliver a well-stripped-down version of the news. The &lt;em&gt;SMH&lt;/em&gt; example, which was from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webdirections.org/blog/iphone-in-australia-now-for-the-bad-news/&quot;&gt;John Allsop&#039;s analysis&lt;/a&gt;, is therefore a furphy.

As an aside, at Mobile Content World I heard that some people are using the mobile versions of websites even when on &quot;normal&quot; desktop or laptop computers, simply to avoid the clutter. Good idea.

&lt;strong&gt;@jason :&lt;/strong&gt; Over recent years Telstra&#039;s data charges have almost always been the worst in the country. It would seem this is no exception.

On Brisbane radio 4BC recently, presenter &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mytalk.com.au/Stations/Talk/4BC/Pages/MichaelSmith.aspx&quot;&gt;Michael White&lt;/a&gt; tried to get Telstra&#039;s Phil Burgess to answer a simple question: If Vodafone and Optus offer 5GB/month on a mobile broadband plan for my laptop for under $40, what is Telstra&#039;s charge for the Next G network? You can hear Burgess avoiding the question on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mytalk.com.au/aspx/pages/mediaplayer.aspx?t=audio&amp;w=8728&quot;&gt;Monday&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mytalk.com.au/aspx/pages/mediaplayer.aspx?t=audio&amp;w=8867&quot;&gt;Thursday&lt;/a&gt;  interviews (though sadly in Windows Media format only).

&lt;strong&gt;@Gywnfor:&lt;/strong&gt; What astounded me yesterday was the steady stream of geeks whining that the data plans were all rip-offs -- and then queuing to sign up for an iPhone anyway. I have no sympathy for them, especially since it seems that a few days of shopping around could deliver better results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Snif:</strong> You&#8217;re quite right. Using my Nokia N80 just now on a Vodafone 3G plan, <a href="http://smh.com.au">smh.com.au</a> detects that I&#8217;m on a mobile device and bounces me to <a href="http://mobile.smh.com.au">mobile.smh.com.au</a> to deliver a well-stripped-down version of the news. The <em>SMH</em> example, which was from <a href="http://www.webdirections.org/blog/iphone-in-australia-now-for-the-bad-news/">John Allsop&#8217;s analysis</a>, is therefore a furphy.</p>
<p>As an aside, at Mobile Content World I heard that some people are using the mobile versions of websites even when on &#8220;normal&#8221; desktop or laptop computers, simply to avoid the clutter. Good idea.</p>
<p><strong>@jason :</strong> Over recent years Telstra&#8217;s data charges have almost always been the worst in the country. It would seem this is no exception.</p>
<p>On Brisbane radio 4BC recently, presenter <a href="http://www.mytalk.com.au/Stations/Talk/4BC/Pages/MichaelSmith.aspx">Michael White</a> tried to get Telstra&#8217;s Phil Burgess to answer a simple question: If Vodafone and Optus offer 5GB/month on a mobile broadband plan for my laptop for under $40, what is Telstra&#8217;s charge for the Next G network? You can hear Burgess avoiding the question on the <a href="http://www.mytalk.com.au/aspx/pages/mediaplayer.aspx?t=audio&#038;w=8728">Monday</a> and <a href="http://www.mytalk.com.au/aspx/pages/mediaplayer.aspx?t=audio&#038;w=8867">Thursday</a>  interviews (though sadly in Windows Media format only).</p>
<p><strong>@Gywnfor:</strong> What astounded me yesterday was the steady stream of geeks whining that the data plans were all rip-offs &#8212; and then queuing to sign up for an iPhone anyway. I have no sympathy for them, especially since it seems that a few days of shopping around could deliver better results.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/internet/so-lets-just-start-our-own-telco-eh/#comment-13255</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://stilgherrian.com/?p=1702#comment-13255</guid>
		<description>lol @ Gwynfor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol @ Gwynfor</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Gwynfor</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/internet/so-lets-just-start-our-own-telco-eh/#comment-13253</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwynfor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://stilgherrian.com/?p=1702#comment-13253</guid>
		<description>The only people who will use them at the early penetration stage (is that too rude to say here?) are poseurs (who should be taxed merely for existing) and geeks (who avoid paying tax by not going out in petrol guzzling cars, failing to buy alcohol and cigarettes, obeying speed limits and all manner of other socially ireesponsible actions). I don&#039;t see a problem here. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only people who will use them at the early penetration stage (is that too rude to say here?) are poseurs (who should be taxed merely for existing) and geeks (who avoid paying tax by not going out in petrol guzzling cars, failing to buy alcohol and cigarettes, obeying speed limits and all manner of other socially ireesponsible actions). I don&#8217;t see a problem here. <img src='http://stilgherrian.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/internet/so-lets-just-start-our-own-telco-eh/#comment-13252</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://stilgherrian.com/?p=1702#comment-13252</guid>
		<description>No way is Telstra&#039;s data pricing a &quot;failure of recognition&quot;.  They deliberately hid their data charges until it was absolutely necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No way is Telstra&#8217;s data pricing a &#8220;failure of recognition&#8221;.  They deliberately hid their data charges until it was absolutely necessary.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: bernard</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/internet/so-lets-just-start-our-own-telco-eh/#comment-13246</link>
		<dc:creator>bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 05:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://stilgherrian.com/?p=1702#comment-13246</guid>
		<description>a FAUCing good idea; then again -- why not see if we can take the Skype mobile option??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a FAUCing good idea; then again &#8212; why not see if we can take the Skype mobile option??</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Snif</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/internet/so-lets-just-start-our-own-telco-eh/#comment-13245</link>
		<dc:creator>Snif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 04:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://stilgherrian.com/?p=1702#comment-13245</guid>
		<description>Pointed this out to a friend, who replied &quot;...websites such as the SMH recognise being accessed by an iPhone and actually display in a low bandwidth mode -- there are plenty of peeps on Whirlpool who have had plenty of time to test out the first gen iPods (imported from the US and hacked to work on our networks) to suggest that average useage is around 100mb -- including daily checking of emails etc.&quot;

Is that the case?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pointed this out to a friend, who replied &#8220;&#8230;websites such as the SMH recognise being accessed by an iPhone and actually display in a low bandwidth mode &#8212; there are plenty of peeps on Whirlpool who have had plenty of time to test out the first gen iPods (imported from the US and hacked to work on our networks) to suggest that average useage is around 100mb &#8212; including daily checking of emails etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is that the case?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
