Comments on: Wednesday, in which I fail to learn about Web 2.0

By: Stilgherrian · The Four Stages of the Internet of Things

Stilgherrian · The Four Stages of the Internet of Things — Sat, 09 Feb 2008 01:36:30 +0000

[...] to comments in my piece about that Web 2.0 session, I’ve stumbled across Kevin Kelly’s explanation of The Four Stages in the Internet of [...]

By: Stilgherrian

Stilgherrian — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:11:48 +0000

@Sweet Sister Morphine Yes, a read of Wikipedia's articles on Globalization and Postmodernism really don't provide concise answers. I think we need to spank more people.

By: Sweet Sister Morphine

Sweet Sister Morphine — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:20:07 +0000

““Web 2.0″ started as the name of a conference, and has evolved into a multi-faceted marketing term — i.e. no-one can really agree on what it means.”

Nothing really changes. When I was studying government at uni in the late 1990s, we were all told that it was vitally important that we familiarised ourselves with the concepts of ‘globalisation’ and ‘post-modernism’. When we pressed our lecturer for more details on what these things actually meant, he admitted that nobody really knew. Yay buzzwords.

By: Stilgherrian

Stilgherrian — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:49:39 +0000

@kcarruthers: Maybe one of us should approach them about doing a decent presentation then.

By: @kcarruthers

@kcarruthers — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:36:48 +0000

Yep — this abandonment of session is normal for peeps like you. ACS (noice peeps though they be) know not of web and things 2.0.

By: Stilgherrian

Stilgherrian — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:26:36 +0000

@Stephen Collins and @Zhasper: I'd always assumed that the ACS was bureaucratic and old-fashioned. But they had an enthusiastic recruiter at CeBIT. I can't recall what eventually sold me, but I did think it might be useful having letters after my name for people who think that sort of thing important. Plus it might be useful networking. I've been to a couple events and been underwhelmed, but since this one was "Web 2.0" I thought I'd see what their take was. Alas, it was a beginner's introduction. I was astounded that people in a "Web Technologies SIG" were eagerly taking notes about such basic stuff. Now I know. @Rhys: "Web 2.0" started as the name of a conference, and has evolved into a multi-faceted marketing term -- i.e. no-one can really agree on what it means. Possibly the most useful aspect is that it can be used to convince venture capital investors that, unlike the original dot-com bubble, "It'll all be different this time." The Wikipedia articles on Web 2.0 and Web 3.0 may help. Or not.

By: Zhasper

Zhasper — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:19:52 +0000

Hah.

When you first mentioned you were going to the ACS shindig, I was surprised, for much the same reason as Stephen was. But, Stil knows what he’s doing, I thought — I was looking forward to finding out why I was wrong.

Oh well.

Have the ACS started their annual push to get themselves declared the official licencing body for all computer users yet?

By: Rhys

Rhys — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:14:32 +0000

admittedly my brain kind of fell asleep at your other 2.0 posts, and my IQ struggles to keep up here at times but why have a seminar for stuff we already know? And why’s 1.0 broke/obsolete?

By: Stephen Collins

Stephen Collins — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:41:41 +0000

Why am I neither remotely surprised (in my experience, the ACS wouldn’t know up to date and cutting edge if it was inserted into them sideways) and just as disappointed as you (as after hearing from you about this event, I imagined it to be the snorefest it was).

No wonder business and government struggle with these concepts.

Sheesh.