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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/media/defining-citizen-journalism/#comment-13584</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;@skeptical:&lt;/strong&gt; I never really watched &lt;em&gt;Nightline&lt;/em&gt;, but &lt;em&gt;Sunday&lt;/em&gt; has been starving to death for years and I&#039;m glad someone&#039;s finally put the gun to its head. When Kerry Packer, a man who actually understood media, was at Channel 9&#039;s helm he started &lt;em&gt;Sunday&lt;/em&gt; knowing it&#039;d never be profitable. His instructions to the first producer? &quot;Make me proud.&quot;

Now that Channel 9 is run by beancounters, they&#039;re cutting costs and removing everything which made it a great TV network. It&#039;s not something to be proud of. It&#039;s embarrassing. The only time I watch Channel 9 now is when it&#039;s on the big screen in a pub.

But...

To ask whether &quot;a good blogger&quot;, singular, can replace a 2-hour flagship current affairs program is the daftest question I&#039;ve seen in a very long time. Of course they can&#039;t, no more than a solo folk singer can replace Opera Australia. They&#039;re different things.

To ask whether &quot;blogs even have a real and serious role to play in truly in-depth political analysis&quot; is to ignore the obvious fact that the answer is &lt;em&gt;already&lt;/em&gt; yes. Ask Dan Rather about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents&quot;&gt;Killian documents&lt;/a&gt;.

To whinge that &quot;a lot of what’s written out there by these wanna-be political commentator blogs are just plain dumb&quot; is to ignore two obvious facts: (1) a lot of what&#039;s written &lt;em&gt;anywhere&lt;/em&gt; is dumb, but that doesn&#039;t invalidate the entire medium; and (2) there &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; good material out there, but every time someone points it out to you, you skip over that and ask again. Troll.

You&#039;re becoming tedious, skeptical. You&#039;re doing &lt;em&gt;exactly&lt;/em&gt; what caused me to write my &lt;a href=&quot;http://stilgherrian.com/media/note-to-old-media-journalists-adapt-or-stfu/&quot;&gt;original rant&lt;/a&gt;: comparing the idealised best of journalism (which rarely exists) with your own pre-conceived idea of blogging, based on the worst that medium has to offer. Quite frankly, that only shows your ignorance of what&#039;s actually happening around you.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/07/23/a-cure-for-curmudgeons/&quot;&gt;Jeff Jarvis is right&lt;/a&gt;. If you&#039;re still back there in the past, trying to push those old arguments, then you&#039;re part of the problem. It&#039;s time to move on. As one of Jarvis&#039; commenters said, &quot;Lead, follow, or get out of the way.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@skeptical:</strong> I never really watched <em>Nightline</em>, but <em>Sunday</em> has been starving to death for years and I&#8217;m glad someone&#8217;s finally put the gun to its head. When Kerry Packer, a man who actually understood media, was at Channel 9&#8242;s helm he started <em>Sunday</em> knowing it&#8217;d never be profitable. His instructions to the first producer? &#8220;Make me proud.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now that Channel 9 is run by beancounters, they&#8217;re cutting costs and removing everything which made it a great TV network. It&#8217;s not something to be proud of. It&#8217;s embarrassing. The only time I watch Channel 9 now is when it&#8217;s on the big screen in a pub.</p>
<p>But&#8230;</p>
<p>To ask whether &#8220;a good blogger&#8221;, singular, can replace a 2-hour flagship current affairs program is the daftest question I&#8217;ve seen in a very long time. Of course they can&#8217;t, no more than a solo folk singer can replace Opera Australia. They&#8217;re different things.</p>
<p>To ask whether &#8220;blogs even have a real and serious role to play in truly in-depth political analysis&#8221; is to ignore the obvious fact that the answer is <em>already</em> yes. Ask Dan Rather about the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents">Killian documents</a>.</p>
<p>To whinge that &#8220;a lot of what’s written out there by these wanna-be political commentator blogs are just plain dumb&#8221; is to ignore two obvious facts: (1) a lot of what&#8217;s written <em>anywhere</em> is dumb, but that doesn&#8217;t invalidate the entire medium; and (2) there <em>is</em> good material out there, but every time someone points it out to you, you skip over that and ask again. Troll.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re becoming tedious, skeptical. You&#8217;re doing <em>exactly</em> what caused me to write my <a href="http://stilgherrian.com/media/note-to-old-media-journalists-adapt-or-stfu/">original rant</a>: comparing the idealised best of journalism (which rarely exists) with your own pre-conceived idea of blogging, based on the worst that medium has to offer. Quite frankly, that only shows your ignorance of what&#8217;s actually happening around you.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/07/23/a-cure-for-curmudgeons/">Jeff Jarvis is right</a>. If you&#8217;re still back there in the past, trying to push those old arguments, then you&#8217;re part of the problem. It&#8217;s time to move on. As one of Jarvis&#8217; commenters said, &#8220;Lead, follow, or get out of the way.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Evil Pundit</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/media/defining-citizen-journalism/#comment-13582</link>
		<dc:creator>Evil Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The mainstream media were &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; good. Skeptical may whinge, but the bad old days are on their way out.

As for terminology, I think the word &quot;journalist&quot; is an insult. Public confidence in journalism as a profession was hovering around the 13% mark the last time I looked. Bloggers are not &quot;journalists&quot;. They&#039;re something vastly better than that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mainstream media were <i>never</i> good. Skeptical may whinge, but the bad old days are on their way out.</p>
<p>As for terminology, I think the word &#8220;journalist&#8221; is an insult. Public confidence in journalism as a profession was hovering around the 13% mark the last time I looked. Bloggers are not &#8220;journalists&#8221;. They&#8217;re something vastly better than that.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Stockwell</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/media/defining-citizen-journalism/#comment-13581</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Stockwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;@skeptical:&lt;/b&gt; It&#039;s been said elsewhere on these pages already, but if you want fully boned-up, robust, referenced and detailed political &lt;i&gt;analysis&lt;/i&gt; from outside traditional media, then you really can&#039;t go past Possum Comitatus and Mumble.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@skeptical:</b> It&#8217;s been said elsewhere on these pages already, but if you want fully boned-up, robust, referenced and detailed political <i>analysis</i> from outside traditional media, then you really can&#8217;t go past Possum Comitatus and Mumble.</p>
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		<title>By: skeptical</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/media/defining-citizen-journalism/#comment-13579</link>
		<dc:creator>skeptical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 00:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well how about that then? Channel 9 is about to axe a couple of news programs, &lt;em&gt;Nightline&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;Sunday&lt;/em&gt;. The former isn&#039;t worth getting worked up about, but the latter&#039;s demise leaves a void! In the context of this blog&#039;s recent discussion, I wonder if some good blogger out there might fill the gap. Do blogs even have a real and serious role to play in truly in-depth political analysis? 

If that blogger exists out there today, show him to me! SHOW HIM TO ME!! 

Fact is, a lot of what&#039;s written out there by these wanna-be political commentator blogs are just plain dumb. In fact, often they say nothing at all. And when they&#039;ve got nothing to say, they&#039;ll put up a dumb post like &quot;Open Thread&quot;. And guess what? That one post gets several hundred comments! WTF is that? 

As far as I&#039;m concerned, that just kinda proves how dumb people have become thanks to the internet.  Here&#039;s something worth reading: http://tinyurl.com/468zuz]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well how about that then? Channel 9 is about to axe a couple of news programs, <em>Nightline</em> and <em>Sunday</em>. The former isn&#8217;t worth getting worked up about, but the latter&#8217;s demise leaves a void! In the context of this blog&#8217;s recent discussion, I wonder if some good blogger out there might fill the gap. Do blogs even have a real and serious role to play in truly in-depth political analysis? </p>
<p>If that blogger exists out there today, show him to me! SHOW HIM TO ME!! </p>
<p>Fact is, a lot of what&#8217;s written out there by these wanna-be political commentator blogs are just plain dumb. In fact, often they say nothing at all. And when they&#8217;ve got nothing to say, they&#8217;ll put up a dumb post like &#8220;Open Thread&#8221;. And guess what? That one post gets several hundred comments! WTF is that? </p>
<p>As far as I&#8217;m concerned, that just kinda proves how dumb people have become thanks to the internet.  Here&#8217;s something worth reading: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/468zuz" >http://tinyurl.com/468zuz</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Stockwell</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/media/defining-citizen-journalism/#comment-13556</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Stockwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like this thread.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this thread.</p>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/media/defining-citizen-journalism/#comment-13552</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;@Art:&lt;/strong&gt; Well, not everything in a &quot;newspaper&quot; is &quot;news&quot;. A lot of other material gets packaged in there. And sometimes you need to provide background information (like the Civil War history) so the news story makes sense.

&lt;strong&gt;@Stephen Stockwell:&lt;/strong&gt; Well how about this? A friend comes up and says, &quot;Hey Stephen, have you heard the &lt;em&gt;news&lt;/em&gt;? Graham is getting married!&quot; That &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; news to you because Graham&#039;s a friend and you hadn&#039;t heard it before.

I&#039;m now starting to think that this idea of news only being about &quot;important people&quot; happened when news started to be transmitted by big, industrial-scale organisations. The subject of the news had to be of relevance to to sufficient people to justify the deployment of industrial-scale newsmaking.

So, there&#039;s a strike by coal miners in South Africa. It&#039;s big -- but only because it affects a lot of people in South Africa or those with shares in the mining company. Does it affect me? No. So really, it&#039;s not news to me. I&#039;d much rather know about the truck crash blocking the end of my street -- no-one hurt, no great damage either, but that really will screw up my day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Art:</strong> Well, not everything in a &#8220;newspaper&#8221; is &#8220;news&#8221;. A lot of other material gets packaged in there. And sometimes you need to provide background information (like the Civil War history) so the news story makes sense.</p>
<p><strong>@Stephen Stockwell:</strong> Well how about this? A friend comes up and says, &#8220;Hey Stephen, have you heard the <em>news</em>? Graham is getting married!&#8221; That <em>is</em> news to you because Graham&#8217;s a friend and you hadn&#8217;t heard it before.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m now starting to think that this idea of news only being about &#8220;important people&#8221; happened when news started to be transmitted by big, industrial-scale organisations. The subject of the news had to be of relevance to to sufficient people to justify the deployment of industrial-scale newsmaking.</p>
<p>So, there&#8217;s a strike by coal miners in South Africa. It&#8217;s big &#8212; but only because it affects a lot of people in South Africa or those with shares in the mining company. Does it affect me? No. So really, it&#8217;s not news to me. I&#8217;d much rather know about the truck crash blocking the end of my street &#8212; no-one hurt, no great damage either, but that really will screw up my day.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Stockwell</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/media/defining-citizen-journalism/#comment-13531</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Stockwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;@Art:&lt;/b&gt; So does that mean the definition of &quot;news&quot; follows the size of the subject&#039;s public profile?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@Art:</b> So does that mean the definition of &#8220;news&#8221; follows the size of the subject&#8217;s public profile?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Stockwell</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/media/defining-citizen-journalism/#comment-13529</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Stockwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;@Stilgherrian:&lt;/b&gt; I &lt;i&gt;love&lt;/i&gt; the idea of &quot;Myriad Publics.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@Stilgherrian:</b> I <i>love</i> the idea of &#8220;Myriad Publics.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/media/defining-citizen-journalism/#comment-13524</link>
		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was just reading the comment that &quot;Why&quot; was current affairs, but am confused about that because I read lots of articles that explain the &quot;Why&quot; but really are reports about history, such as the United States Civil War history.

And as for the comment about putting in your blog information about your wedding is not &quot;news&quot; it would be if you were a public figure!  Even though you are not a public figures, it is at least &quot;Local news&quot; to your friends and family!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just reading the comment that &#8220;Why&#8221; was current affairs, but am confused about that because I read lots of articles that explain the &#8220;Why&#8221; but really are reports about history, such as the United States Civil War history.</p>
<p>And as for the comment about putting in your blog information about your wedding is not &#8220;news&#8221; it would be if you were a public figure!  Even though you are not a public figures, it is at least &#8220;Local news&#8221; to your friends and family!</p>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/media/defining-citizen-journalism/#comment-13521</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;@jason:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;en&gt;Webster&#039;s&lt;/em&gt; isn&#039;t my favourite dictionary, but yes you&#039;re right. Indeed, &quot;real journalists&quot; look down upon newspaper columnists as a distinctly lesser breed. Many of them re doing precisely the random brain-dump which bloggers are accused of.

I was once told that answering the who, what, where, when and how questions were news, and answering &quot;Why?&quot; was current affairs. Giving any personal opinion took it outside the realm of both. But then that&#039;s a definition of the particular craft of &quot;real journalism&quot;, and perhaps the whole printed-word and exclusivity of having a voice in The Press meant that a culture of neutrality was encouraged.

Jay Rosen recently &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/statuses/861382715&quot;&gt;asked&lt;/a&gt;, &quot;When people talk about re-inventing journalism they almost never talk about re-drawing its ideology. Why?&quot;

&lt;strong&gt;@Cindy:&lt;/strong&gt; Yes, blogging is, or at least can be, an example of citizen journalism. The whole point is we&#039;re trying to drop the word &quot;blogging&quot; because of the negative connotations (for some).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@jason:</strong> <en>Webster&#8217;s isn&#8217;t my favourite dictionary, but yes you&#8217;re right. Indeed, &#8220;real journalists&#8221; look down upon newspaper columnists as a distinctly lesser breed. Many of them re doing precisely the random brain-dump which bloggers are accused of.</p>
<p>I was once told that answering the who, what, where, when and how questions were news, and answering &#8220;Why?&#8221; was current affairs. Giving any personal opinion took it outside the realm of both. But then that&#8217;s a definition of the particular craft of &#8220;real journalism&#8221;, and perhaps the whole printed-word and exclusivity of having a voice in The Press meant that a culture of neutrality was encouraged.</p>
<p>Jay Rosen recently <a href="http://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/statuses/861382715">asked</a>, &#8220;When people talk about re-inventing journalism they almost never talk about re-drawing its ideology. Why?&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>@Cindy:</strong> Yes, blogging is, or at least can be, an example of citizen journalism. The whole point is we&#8217;re trying to drop the word &#8220;blogging&#8221; because of the negative connotations (for some).</en></p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/media/defining-citizen-journalism/#comment-13510</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like the definition of a blogger to me!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like the definition of a blogger to me!</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/media/defining-citizen-journalism/#comment-13509</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem is that even columnists in newspapers aren&#039;t necessarily journalists.  Opinion pieces aren&#039;t journalism.

Webster dictionary says journalism is &quot;writing characterized by a direct presentation of facts or description of events without an attempt at interpretation&quot;

Rather than giving a name and status to blogging, lets focus on removing the undeserved &quot;journalism&quot; tag from 90% for the shite that gets pumped out by  media organisations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that even columnists in newspapers aren&#8217;t necessarily journalists.  Opinion pieces aren&#8217;t journalism.</p>
<p>Webster dictionary says journalism is &#8220;writing characterized by a direct presentation of facts or description of events without an attempt at interpretation&#8221;</p>
<p>Rather than giving a name and status to blogging, lets focus on removing the undeserved &#8220;journalism&#8221; tag from 90% for the shite that gets pumped out by  media organisations.</p>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/media/defining-citizen-journalism/#comment-13508</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;@Lyn:&lt;/strong&gt; No, I don&#039;t think the difference is the money at all, though the money thing does conflate the two meanings of &quot;professional&quot;, doing it for money or doing it to &quot;professional standards&quot;. It&#039;s about a different approach -- where the creators and the audience are the same set of people.

&quot;Recreational&quot; implies it&#039;s for the fun of it, whereas I think citizen journalism reflects the core human need to communicate and some people take it very seriously indeed.

&quot;Recreational journalism&quot; also sounds like a good puff of what the junior graphic artist keep stashed at the back of his desk drawer...

&lt;strong&gt;Neerav Bhatt:&lt;/strong&gt; You&#039;re right, to use one word &quot;blog&quot; to describe &lt;a href=&quot;http://huffingtonpost.com&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Huffington Post&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bhatt.id.au/&quot;&gt;your own work&lt;/a&gt;, mine and a random cat-fancier from Arkansas isn&#039;t helpful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Lyn:</strong> No, I don&#8217;t think the difference is the money at all, though the money thing does conflate the two meanings of &#8220;professional&#8221;, doing it for money or doing it to &#8220;professional standards&#8221;. It&#8217;s about a different approach &#8212; where the creators and the audience are the same set of people.</p>
<p>&#8220;Recreational&#8221; implies it&#8217;s for the fun of it, whereas I think citizen journalism reflects the core human need to communicate and some people take it very seriously indeed.</p>
<p>&#8220;Recreational journalism&#8221; also sounds like a good puff of what the junior graphic artist keep stashed at the back of his desk drawer&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Neerav Bhatt:</strong> You&#8217;re right, to use one word &#8220;blog&#8221; to describe <a href="http://huffingtonpost.com"><em>The Huffington Post</em></a>, <a href="http://www.bhatt.id.au/">your own work</a>, mine and a random cat-fancier from Arkansas isn&#8217;t helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Neerav Bhatt</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/media/defining-citizen-journalism/#comment-13501</link>
		<dc:creator>Neerav Bhatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When a non IT/media industry person asks me what I do I say &quot;independent web journalist&quot; and they usually &quot;say wow that&#039;s great&quot;.

To people in the IT/media industry I say &quot;Professional Blogger&quot; -- and they say wow that&#039;s great

If people still don&#039;t understand, I say imagine Fairfax Digital but scaled down a heck of a lot and run by 1 person who does all the work: writing, invoicing, selling ad space etc.

I don&#039;t think one label works across the whole population]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a non IT/media industry person asks me what I do I say &#8220;independent web journalist&#8221; and they usually &#8220;say wow that&#8217;s great&#8221;.</p>
<p>To people in the IT/media industry I say &#8220;Professional Blogger&#8221; &#8212; and they say wow that&#8217;s great</p>
<p>If people still don&#8217;t understand, I say imagine Fairfax Digital but scaled down a heck of a lot and run by 1 person who does all the work: writing, invoicing, selling ad space etc.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think one label works across the whole population</p>
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		<title>By: Lyn</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/media/defining-citizen-journalism/#comment-13500</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recreational journalism?

Given the wiki definition of journalism and the equivalent good/bad quality, trustworthy/untrustworthy source continua in all kinds of media, the difference is the money, surely?

OK, so it&#039;s not actually recreation for a lot of bloggers, but I like the implied flip of the bird at status conscious paid journalists.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recreational journalism?</p>
<p>Given the wiki definition of journalism and the equivalent good/bad quality, trustworthy/untrustworthy source continua in all kinds of media, the difference is the money, surely?</p>
<p>OK, so it&#8217;s not actually recreation for a lot of bloggers, but I like the implied flip of the bird at status conscious paid journalists.</p>
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