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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ABC Digital Futures &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The value of high-speed networks</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/australia-2020-does-not-haz-teh-internetz/#comment-13199</link>
		<dc:creator>ABC Digital Futures &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The value of high-speed networks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Stilgherrian has been looking at the final report of Australia 2020 Summit, and concludes that Australia&#8217;s [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A Meaningful Life &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Australia 2020 - far less than perfect vision</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/australia-2020-does-not-haz-teh-internetz/#comment-13192</link>
		<dc:creator>A Meaningful Life &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Australia 2020 - far less than perfect vision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sums it up well in this post and also Stephens Collins on this acidlabs.org [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Simon Slade</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/australia-2020-does-not-haz-teh-internetz/#comment-13187</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Slade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not terribly surprised by this -- as the use of computers becomes more a part of everyday life, it often seems to me that fewer users than ever actually know much about how anything works.

I suppose it is a lot like cars -- many people out there cannot change a tyre, put oil or coolant in, or refill the windscreen washer bottle!  But they know how many cupholders they have!

As an example, I know a MS Word wiz.  She can even get automatic numbering to work within styles!!  But I asked her one day "where did you save that document?" and got the reply "In Word."  I assumed that, in order to have a high level of skill with Word, she must know about files, folders etc, but no.

And my personal favourite is the call for help I got one day from a friend:

"I need help, the Internet is broken."

Now there are two claims in that sentence, and only one of them was right! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not terribly surprised by this &#8212; as the use of computers becomes more a part of everyday life, it often seems to me that fewer users than ever actually know much about how anything works.</p>
<p>I suppose it is a lot like cars &#8212; many people out there cannot change a tyre, put oil or coolant in, or refill the windscreen washer bottle!  But they know how many cupholders they have!</p>
<p>As an example, I know a MS Word wiz.  She can even get automatic numbering to work within styles!!  But I asked her one day &#8220;where did you save that document?&#8221; and got the reply &#8220;In Word.&#8221;  I assumed that, in order to have a high level of skill with Word, she must know about files, folders etc, but no.</p>
<p>And my personal favourite is the call for help I got one day from a friend:</p>
<p>&#8220;I need help, the Internet is broken.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now there are two claims in that sentence, and only one of them was right! <img src='http://stilgherrian.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/australia-2020-does-not-haz-teh-internetz/#comment-13183</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Stephen Collins:&lt;/strong&gt; No, I'm no surprised. I'm starting to become resigned to the disappointment too. Maybe I'm being silly, but I actually expect our leaders to, you know, &lt;em&gt;lead&lt;/em&gt;... [sigh]

&lt;strong&gt;@DaSuthNa:&lt;/strong&gt; Agreed. It's hardly "deathless prose". Maybe that's why politicians never act on report recommendations: they fall asleep before the good bits.

&lt;strong&gt;@Speedicut:&lt;/strong&gt; It's this gulf of understanding that really hit me both at PubCamp and the Politics &#038; Technology Forum. All these thoughts are rumbling around the back of my head while I work at clients' premises this week, and will eventually disgorge themselves into an essay. Some time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Stephen Collins:</strong> No, I&#8217;m no surprised. I&#8217;m starting to become resigned to the disappointment too. Maybe I&#8217;m being silly, but I actually expect our leaders to, you know, <em>lead</em>&#8230; [sigh]</p>
<p><strong>@DaSuthNa:</strong> Agreed. It&#8217;s hardly &#8220;deathless prose&#8221;. Maybe that&#8217;s why politicians never act on report recommendations: they fall asleep before the good bits.</p>
<p><strong>@Speedicut:</strong> It&#8217;s this gulf of understanding that really hit me both at PubCamp and the Politics &#038; Technology Forum. All these thoughts are rumbling around the back of my head while I work at clients&#8217; premises this week, and will eventually disgorge themselves into an essay. Some time.</p>
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		<title>By: Speedicut</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/australia-2020-does-not-haz-teh-internetz/#comment-13180</link>
		<dc:creator>Speedicut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Here’s what our finest minds had to say…"

Didn't you mean:

"Here’s what our finest minds -- and Corinne Grant -- had to say…"?

As someone who can barely control a Blogger template I can't cast aspersions on others lack of tech nous. What strikes me is the huge information gap between folk like yourself who get the pc/web/comm thing on almost a molecular level and the rest of us. This will obviously change in the future, meanwhile it's interesting to see the varying rates of tech take up  amongst different age groups and occupations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Here’s what our finest minds had to say…&#8221;</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t you mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;Here’s what our finest minds &#8212; and Corinne Grant &#8212; had to say…&#8221;?</p>
<p>As someone who can barely control a Blogger template I can&#8217;t cast aspersions on others lack of tech nous. What strikes me is the huge information gap between folk like yourself who get the pc/web/comm thing on almost a molecular level and the rest of us. This will obviously change in the future, meanwhile it&#8217;s interesting to see the varying rates of tech take up  amongst different age groups and occupations.</p>
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		<title>By: DaSuthNa</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaSuthNa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and what about the writing style of this report?  No disrespect, but it reads like a Year 7 poster display.  What's going on there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and what about the writing style of this report?  No disrespect, but it reads like a Year 7 poster display.  What&#8217;s going on there?</p>
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		<title>By: acidlabs &#187; 2020 Summit fails Australia on&#160;connectedness</title>
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		<dc:creator>acidlabs &#187; 2020 Summit fails Australia on&#160;connectedness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] may want to read about Stephen Collins or subscribe to the RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!My friend, Stilgherrian, has posted a scathing analysis of the final report of the 2020 Summit. He&#8217;s particularly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] may want to read about Stephen Collins or subscribe to the RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!My friend, Stilgherrian, has posted a scathing analysis of the final report of the 2020 Summit. He&#8217;s particularly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As disappointed as you and I (and I'd hazard most of the crowd we jointly know) are, are you really surprised?

We know and have experienced first hand the failure of government to engage online. I frankly no longer have an expectation of competence on the part of Australian governments when it comes to the Internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As disappointed as you and I (and I&#8217;d hazard most of the crowd we jointly know) are, are you really surprised?</p>
<p>We know and have experienced first hand the failure of government to engage online. I frankly no longer have an expectation of competence on the part of Australian governments when it comes to the Internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/australia-2020-does-not-haz-teh-internetz/#comment-13174</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@bojan:&lt;/strong&gt; No, actually. If I'm bitter about &lt;em&gt;anything&lt;/em&gt; -- that is, at a personal level -- it's because I didn't see how it was being stacked politically sooner than I did. Certainly the first-hand comments of many participants expressed disappointment at the process.

If you read the report, I think you'll find very little that is truly groundbreaking. Or can you point to something which &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; groundbreaking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@bojan:</strong> No, actually. If I&#8217;m bitter about <em>anything</em> &#8212; that is, at a personal level &#8212; it&#8217;s because I didn&#8217;t see how it was being stacked politically sooner than I did. Certainly the first-hand comments of many participants expressed disappointment at the process.</p>
<p>If you read the report, I think you&#8217;ll find very little that is truly groundbreaking. Or can you point to something which <em>is</em> groundbreaking?</p>
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		<title>By: bojan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bojan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee someone's bitter about not being accepted...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee someone&#8217;s bitter about not being accepted&#8230;</p>
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