Comments on: Budget explains Internet censorship plan, a bit

By: Stilgherrian · Is Internet filtering inevitable?

Stilgherrian · Is Internet filtering inevitable? — Wed, 21 May 2008 23:21:41 +0000

[...] written previously that the Federal Budget sort of explained what’ll be happening with Internet filtering. Now that Senator Conroy has announced his Cyber-Safety Consultative Working Group I’m not so [...]

By: Stilgherrian

Stilgherrian — Wed, 14 May 2008 15:11:01 +0000

@bernard: I will assume that my irony detector is working correctly and that your suggestion for the AFP and the DPP to chase spam is a joke. But… While spam is certainly irritating, it’s not a particularly serious crime in itself — although the phishing and other scams transmitted by spare are crimes.

Your figures for the percentage of email traffic which is spam is typical. My business Prussia.Net’s email server rejects around 70% of all inbound email connections as being from known spam sources, and roughly 70% of what is then delivered ends up being spam. However this isn’t the major use of Internet bandwidth: BitTorrent is.

@Stephen Stockwell: Nah, I don’t think there’s any connection between the broadband rollout and the filtering. They just happen to be election promises which are both being implemented.

@Anastasia: You’ll find that I’ve previously written a lot about censorship in the articles so tagged. One of the makes the point, from John Birmingham, that filtering the Internet is expecting the government to do people’s babysitting for them.

The wording in the Budget is significantly less worrying than Senator Conroy’s mouthings-off last year.

By: Anastasia

Anastasia — Wed, 14 May 2008 14:27:27 +0000

As a parent, I think it’s an incredible waste of funds, and as an almost former drone of a major telco, I think subsidies for ISPs are amusing, considering certain CEO’s receive 6 million dollar bonuses a year on top of their inflated salaries. The bureaucratic processes within large companies costs money and take up time that can be spent elsewhere. I think some funds can be used to improve departments like DOCS. I agree with law enforcement receiving funds to investigate Internet crime, but a filter is over the top.

Parents need to take some responsibility and take control of their children’s internet usage to begin with. Personally, I’m fed up with whining parents that make out like the internet is some sort of separate entity that is out to brainwash their children, like some sort of demon or monster. It’s quite easy to solve the problem of children/teens and internet usage (and possible access to adult content — which is what this filter is about, to create some form of porn hysteria): parents shouldn’t buy them laptops and give them wireless internet, and they can always monitor usage.

I can’t say that I like the idea of opting in, enforced censorship (with the option of opting in), which is what a filter is, would enable ISP’s to gather data relating to people opting in, and then it blur the concept of privacy. The UK is experiencing a similar debate on a filter, which enables data collection.

By: Alex Willemyns

Alex Willemyns — Wed, 14 May 2008 10:06:33 +0000

Wayne Swan: “This money is not ours, it belongs to the Australian people.”
Heckler: “Well, give it back then!”

(My favorite part of the budget.)

By: Michael Meloni

Michael Meloni — Wed, 14 May 2008 01:48:20 +0000

Stephen: Maybe it’s a case of ‘Hey, we’ve given you heaps fast interwebs, now you owe US one. Let us filter it.’ Some folks may just be so overwhelmed with their faster Underbelly downloads that they don’t give two craps. (Ah well that is until MIPI wants file sharing filtered… but that’s another can)

By: Stephen Stockwell

Stephen Stockwell — Wed, 14 May 2008 01:10:23 +0000

Hear, hear!

And isn’t it a bit sus ramping up these ISP-level filters along roughly the same timeline as the broadband rollout? I mean, are the government hoping the extra speed gained by fibre-to-the-node will mean we won’t notice the slump incurred by the net nanny?

By: bernard

bernard — Wed, 14 May 2008 00:34:03 +0000

How about funding the DPP and AFP to combat spam?

These figures may be only from one large (non-Australian) ISP, but in recent months their filters knocked back a minimum of 85% and a max of 99% of the delivery requests they received.

Get rid of that, and our bandwidth costs would plummet.