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	<title>Comments on: Conroy&#8217;s speech to ALIA Information Online 2009</title>
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		<title>By: Senator Conroy keeps telling the same old story: It&#8217;s not about free speech - Somebody Think Of The Children</title>
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		<dc:creator>Senator Conroy keeps telling the same old story: It&#8217;s not about free speech - Somebody Think Of The Children</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Freedom of speech is fundamentally important in a democratic society and there has never been any suggestion that the Australian Government would seek to block political content. - Senator Conroy, ALIA Information Online 2009 Speech, Jan 20, 2009 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Freedom of speech is fundamentally important in a democratic society and there has never been any suggestion that the Australian Government would seek to block political content. &#8211; Senator Conroy, ALIA Information Online 2009 Speech, Jan 20, 2009 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: anthony</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/conroys-speech-to-alia-information-online-2009/#comment-15444</link>
		<dc:creator>anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone really think that a failed trial will stop this? The government&#039;s fascination with control and the commercial imperative mean that even if the trial is such a failure that they can&#039;t spin it as a success, in 12 months time one of the filter vendors will come back with a new version that This Time Will Work For Sure and it&#039;ll all start again. 
I&#039;m not sure what the solution is. This hideously bad idea comes up again, and again, and again. The control freaks in Federal Parliament, on both sides of the aisle, are seemingly obsessed with it. &quot;For the children&quot;, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone really think that a failed trial will stop this? The government&#8217;s fascination with control and the commercial imperative mean that even if the trial is such a failure that they can&#8217;t spin it as a success, in 12 months time one of the filter vendors will come back with a new version that This Time Will Work For Sure and it&#8217;ll all start again.<br />
I&#8217;m not sure what the solution is. This hideously bad idea comes up again, and again, and again. The control freaks in Federal Parliament, on both sides of the aisle, are seemingly obsessed with it. &#8220;For the children&#8221;, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Bain</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/conroys-speech-to-alia-information-online-2009/#comment-15402</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Bain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 07:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You (and/or your readers) may be interested in this letter from the American Library Association to Congress who are expressing concerns that children under the Age of 12 may be prohibited from libraries - not because of the content in the books - but due to the fact that untested books may expose children to unacceptable levels of lead and phthalate.

http://www.wo.ala.org/districtdispatch/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/cpsia1.pdf

Dated 8th. January 2009 the ALA states:

&quot;If the CPSIA is applied to books and paper-based materials, as indicated by the Commission’s General Counsel, public, school and museum libraries will have to either remove all their books or ban all children under 12 from visiting. This cannot be what the Congress intended&quot;

 (signed)

Emily Sheketoff
Executive Director of the American Library Association’s Washington Office

(there&#039;s an abundance of videos and on-line newspaper articles on this subject if anyone wishes to do a google on the subject)

So far the problem of radiation from computer displays hasn&#039;t entered into the &quot;somebody think of the children&quot; debate even though it has been subject to inquiry in some European countries.

I have been told that I am in danger due to my continued exposure to electromagnetic radiation (and clutter) especially as my computer(s) are located in my main bedroom.  The second &quot;bedroom&quot; is now officially an office.

 I amended a web page on the interesting suburb of Werrington to reflect my conerns at this interesting observation.

 The Werrington website (reflecting Werrington as seen in 2002 - it doesn&#039;t change very much)

 http://users.tpg.com.au/adsln4rh/werrington/

 was amended on 5th. October 2005 when I added the words (electromagnetic radiation and clutter excepted!)

 It&#039;s far too late now :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You (and/or your readers) may be interested in this letter from the American Library Association to Congress who are expressing concerns that children under the Age of 12 may be prohibited from libraries &#8211; not because of the content in the books &#8211; but due to the fact that untested books may expose children to unacceptable levels of lead and phthalate.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wo.ala.org/districtdispatch/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/cpsia1.pdf" >http://www.wo.ala.org/districtdispatch/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/cpsia1.pdf</a></p>
<p>Dated 8th. January 2009 the ALA states:</p>
<p>&#8220;If the CPSIA is applied to books and paper-based materials, as indicated by the Commission’s General Counsel, public, school and museum libraries will have to either remove all their books or ban all children under 12 from visiting. This cannot be what the Congress intended&#8221;</p>
<p> (signed)</p>
<p>Emily Sheketoff<br />
Executive Director of the American Library Association’s Washington Office</p>
<p>(there&#8217;s an abundance of videos and on-line newspaper articles on this subject if anyone wishes to do a google on the subject)</p>
<p>So far the problem of radiation from computer displays hasn&#8217;t entered into the &#8220;somebody think of the children&#8221; debate even though it has been subject to inquiry in some European countries.</p>
<p>I have been told that I am in danger due to my continued exposure to electromagnetic radiation (and clutter) especially as my computer(s) are located in my main bedroom.  The second &#8220;bedroom&#8221; is now officially an office.</p>
<p> I amended a web page on the interesting suburb of Werrington to reflect my conerns at this interesting observation.</p>
<p> The Werrington website (reflecting Werrington as seen in 2002 &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t change very much)</p>
<p> <a href="http://users.tpg.com.au/adsln4rh/werrington/" >http://users.tpg.com.au/adsln4rh/werrington/</a></p>
<p> was amended on 5th. October 2005 when I added the words (electromagnetic radiation and clutter excepted!)</p>
<p> It&#8217;s far too late now <img src='http://stilgherrian.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/conroys-speech-to-alia-information-online-2009/#comment-15386</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Fred&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;@James:&lt;/strong&gt; The sentence in Conroy&#039;s speech you refer to is interesting:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Freedom of speech is fundamentally important in a democratic society and there has never been any suggestion that the Australian Government would seek to block political content.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Blocking political content would indeed be unconstitutional, as the High Court has ruled. However there&#039;s a lot of things that are &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; &quot;political&quot; that the government might wish to stop but which aren&#039;t covered by the classification legislation -- and I&#039;ve previously outlined &lt;a href=&quot;http://stilgherrian.com/politics/conroy-attacks-bittorrent-ruins-australia-online/#comment-15210&quot;&gt;the potential risk to free speech&lt;/a&gt;.

The entire project is being done backwards.

Conroy is saying, effectively, &quot;Let&#039;s build the Big Secret Automatic Censorship Machine, see how it goes, and then &#039;down the track&#039; we&#039;ll have a discussion about what we&#039;ll use it for.&quot;

No, Minister. Let&#039;s have the conversation first! Let&#039;s have some clear rules about what the government is allowed to do. Then, and only then, do you start building secret machines to implement it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Fred</strong> and <strong>@James:</strong> The sentence in Conroy&#8217;s speech you refer to is interesting:</p>
<blockquote><p>Freedom of speech is fundamentally important in a democratic society and there has never been any suggestion that the Australian Government would seek to block political content.</p></blockquote>
<p>Blocking political content would indeed be unconstitutional, as the High Court has ruled. However there&#8217;s a lot of things that are <em>not</em> &#8220;political&#8221; that the government might wish to stop but which aren&#8217;t covered by the classification legislation &#8212; and I&#8217;ve previously outlined <a href="http://stilgherrian.com/politics/conroy-attacks-bittorrent-ruins-australia-online/#comment-15210">the potential risk to free speech</a>.</p>
<p>The entire project is being done backwards.</p>
<p>Conroy is saying, effectively, &#8220;Let&#8217;s build the Big Secret Automatic Censorship Machine, see how it goes, and then &#8216;down the track&#8217; we&#8217;ll have a discussion about what we&#8217;ll use it for.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, Minister. Let&#8217;s have the conversation first! Let&#8217;s have some clear rules about what the government is allowed to do. Then, and only then, do you start building secret machines to implement it.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/conroys-speech-to-alia-information-online-2009/#comment-15385</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred: The reason he goes on about political speech is the High Court has ruled that political speech is an implied constitutional right and so can&#039;t be censorsed. So he has to say it&#039;s protected otherwise he&#039;ll get smacked down hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred: The reason he goes on about political speech is the High Court has ruled that political speech is an implied constitutional right and so can&#8217;t be censorsed. So he has to say it&#8217;s protected otherwise he&#8217;ll get smacked down hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Newton</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/conroys-speech-to-alia-information-online-2009/#comment-15383</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Conroy says this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Freedom of speech is fundamentally important in a democratic society and there has never been any suggestion that the Australian Government would seek to block political content.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Then, on the very next day, xFOADx on Whirlpool posts this:
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1123716&amp;p=35#r685

Here&#039;s an anti-abortion site.  Political content.  Distasteful?  Yes.  But undeniably political.

On ACMA&#039;s Prohibited Content list.

Ball&#039;s in your court, Senator.

[&lt;strong&gt;Stilgherrian notes:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;This comment was originally posted on 21 January, but for some reason was marked as spam. I only discovered it on 3 February and approved it then.&lt;/em&gt;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Conroy says this:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Freedom of speech is fundamentally important in a democratic society and there has never been any suggestion that the Australian Government would seek to block political content.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Then, on the very next day, xFOADx on Whirlpool posts this:<br />
<a href="http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1123716&#038;p=35#r685" >http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1123716&#038;p=35#r685</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an anti-abortion site.  Political content.  Distasteful?  Yes.  But undeniably political.</p>
<p>On ACMA&#8217;s Prohibited Content list.</p>
<p>Ball&#8217;s in your court, Senator.</p>
<p>[<strong>Stilgherrian notes:</strong> <em>This comment was originally posted on 21 January, but for some reason was marked as spam. I only discovered it on 3 February and approved it then.</em>]</p>
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		<title>By: Gail</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/conroys-speech-to-alia-information-online-2009/#comment-15382</link>
		<dc:creator>Gail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Stilgherrian:&lt;/strong&gt; I&#039;m aware of that. That doesn&#039;t make censorship a better idea. How about this example. http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1123716&amp;p=35#r685</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Stilgherrian:</strong> I&#8217;m aware of that. That doesn&#8217;t make censorship a better idea. How about this example. <a href="http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1123716&#038;p=35#r685" >http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1123716&#038;p=35#r685</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/conroys-speech-to-alia-information-online-2009/#comment-15380</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Gail:&lt;/strong&gt; I agree that the Cyber Safety Working Group may not be the best mix of representation for a reality-based reality, to use Bernard Keane&#039;s phrase. However the folks who are canny at lobbying and whose views don&#039;t threaten government policy are the people who end up on such panels. I&#039;d never be invited because I&#039;m quite prepared to point out any lies or hypocrisies.

However &quot;community standards&quot; are enshrined in existing legislation: that which already defines what&#039;s rated G, PG, M, MA, MA15+, R, X or RC. While you or I may or may not agree with how those classifications work, they &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; the classifications. If anyone reckons they&#039;re wrong, then it&#039;s a matter of convincing a government that it&#039;s time to review them. Good luck on that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Gail:</strong> I agree that the Cyber Safety Working Group may not be the best mix of representation for a reality-based reality, to use Bernard Keane&#8217;s phrase. However the folks who are canny at lobbying and whose views don&#8217;t threaten government policy are the people who end up on such panels. I&#8217;d never be invited because I&#8217;m quite prepared to point out any lies or hypocrisies.</p>
<p>However &#8220;community standards&#8221; are enshrined in existing legislation: that which already defines what&#8217;s rated G, PG, M, MA, MA15+, R, X or RC. While you or I may or may not agree with how those classifications work, they <em>are</em> the classifications. If anyone reckons they&#8217;re wrong, then it&#8217;s a matter of convincing a government that it&#8217;s time to review them. Good luck on that!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Bain</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/conroys-speech-to-alia-information-online-2009/#comment-15379</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Bain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some comments from Jan Richards (Vice President of ALIA) regarding a recent issue raised in Queensland :

Extact from an ABC report (also available in 3 audio formats)

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2008/s2470406.htm

 (content described by the author as &quot;perverted porn&quot; but seemingly popular in large print editions for those who have trouble reading due to age or other disabilities )

JAN RICHARDS: We believe that people should be able to read what they want to read with a degree of privacy. However the issue of children
accessing inappropriate material is a very real one and we all have systems in place whereby we would stop a child from taking something
that was inappropriate, but at the same time we think that there is a very important role for parents to play.

NICOLE BUTLER: The vice president of ALIA says it&#039;s unlikely that all of the libraries holding Mr Kevin&#039;s novels will pull them from the shelves.

JAN RICHARDS: Now it depends on how they feel it fits in with their own community.

ASHLEY HALL: The vice president of the Australian Library and Information Association, Jan Richards ending Nicole Butler&#039;s report.

 ==============

http://www.alia.org.au/governance/elections/2008/board/vp/candidates.html#dw

Statement of professional concerns

Libraries across Australia are being faced with a suite of issues. Political, social and technological changes offer us a myriad of challenges, but also opportunities. It is a time for us to work together as one industry to address these through policy direction, education and professional development for the benefit of our members and the communities we serve. If we are to achieve this and retain our relevance we need to speak with one voice, and to do this we need to work in concert with other library organisations. 

 Jan Richards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some comments from Jan Richards (Vice President of ALIA) regarding a recent issue raised in Queensland :</p>
<p>Extact from an ABC report (also available in 3 audio formats)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2008/s2470406.htm" >http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2008/s2470406.htm</a></p>
<p> (content described by the author as &#8220;perverted porn&#8221; but seemingly popular in large print editions for those who have trouble reading due to age or other disabilities )</p>
<p>JAN RICHARDS: We believe that people should be able to read what they want to read with a degree of privacy. However the issue of children<br />
accessing inappropriate material is a very real one and we all have systems in place whereby we would stop a child from taking something<br />
that was inappropriate, but at the same time we think that there is a very important role for parents to play.</p>
<p>NICOLE BUTLER: The vice president of ALIA says it&#8217;s unlikely that all of the libraries holding Mr Kevin&#8217;s novels will pull them from the shelves.</p>
<p>JAN RICHARDS: Now it depends on how they feel it fits in with their own community.</p>
<p>ASHLEY HALL: The vice president of the Australian Library and Information Association, Jan Richards ending Nicole Butler&#8217;s report.</p>
<p> ==============</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alia.org.au/governance/elections/2008/board/vp/candidates.html#dw" >http://www.alia.org.au/governance/elections/2008/board/vp/candidates.html#dw</a></p>
<p>Statement of professional concerns</p>
<p>Libraries across Australia are being faced with a suite of issues. Political, social and technological changes offer us a myriad of challenges, but also opportunities. It is a time for us to work together as one industry to address these through policy direction, education and professional development for the benefit of our members and the communities we serve. If we are to achieve this and retain our relevance we need to speak with one voice, and to do this we need to work in concert with other library organisations. </p>
<p> Jan Richards</p>
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		<title>By: Gail</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/conroys-speech-to-alia-information-online-2009/#comment-15378</link>
		<dc:creator>Gail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does Senator Conroy plan to assess these community standards? He certainly isn&#039;t accepting community input and the &quot;Cyber Safety Work Group&quot; represents a very narrow view of &quot;community&quot; and some major corporate interests.  Are the meetings of this group published for public comment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does Senator Conroy plan to assess these community standards? He certainly isn&#8217;t accepting community input and the &#8220;Cyber Safety Work Group&#8221; represents a very narrow view of &#8220;community&#8221; and some major corporate interests.  Are the meetings of this group published for public comment?</p>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/conroys-speech-to-alia-information-online-2009/#comment-15374</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Bob Bain:&lt;/strong&gt; The case of Harry Nicolaides is an interesting one, an example of Thailand&#039;s &lt;em&gt;lèse-majesté&lt;/em&gt; law which &lt;em&gt;The Economist&lt;/em&gt; wrote about in their superb opinion piece &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12724800&quot;&gt;A right royal mess &lt;/a&gt;. They also called for its repeal in an editorial, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12724832&quot;&gt;The King and them&lt;/a&gt;.

Their efforts ended up getting that issue &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking+News/SE+Asia/Story/STIStory_311938.html&quot;&gt;&quot;banned&quot; in Thailand&lt;/a&gt;. In quotes, because the fear of committing &lt;em&gt;lèse-majesté&lt;/em&gt; is so strong that nothing needed to be done officially -- the distributors simply chose not to sell the magazine.

&lt;strong&gt;@Daniel O&#039;Connor:&lt;/strong&gt; I&#039;ve checked, and the text on this page matches that in the PDF file provided by Conroy&#039;s office. Normally the draft version is marked &quot;check against delivery&quot; in case the speaker makes off-the-cuff remarks, and a cross-checked version is sent without that label. This PDF did not have the label.

However at some point today I&#039;ll cross-check against the videos uploaded by &lt;strong&gt;Neerav&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Bob Bain:</strong> The case of Harry Nicolaides is an interesting one, an example of Thailand&#8217;s <em>lèse-majesté</em> law which <em>The Economist</em> wrote about in their superb opinion piece <a href="http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12724800">A right royal mess </a>. They also called for its repeal in an editorial, <a href="http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12724832">The King and them</a>.</p>
<p>Their efforts ended up getting that issue <a href="http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking+News/SE+Asia/Story/STIStory_311938.html">&#8220;banned&#8221; in Thailand</a>. In quotes, because the fear of committing <em>lèse-majesté</em> is so strong that nothing needed to be done officially &#8212; the distributors simply chose not to sell the magazine.</p>
<p><strong>@Daniel O&#8217;Connor:</strong> I&#8217;ve checked, and the text on this page matches that in the PDF file provided by Conroy&#8217;s office. Normally the draft version is marked &#8220;check against delivery&#8221; in case the speaker makes off-the-cuff remarks, and a cross-checked version is sent without that label. This PDF did not have the label.</p>
<p>However at some point today I&#8217;ll cross-check against the videos uploaded by <strong>Neerav</strong>.</p>
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		<title>By: Neerav</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/conroys-speech-to-alia-information-online-2009/#comment-15369</link>
		<dc:creator>Neerav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI Stilgherrian

3 Part Video: Senator Stephen Conroy - Information Online 2009 
http://bit.ly/MjX1 
http://bit.ly/3D719g 
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<p>3 Part Video: Senator Stephen Conroy &#8211; Information Online 2009<br />
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		<title>By: Donna Spencer Information Architecture workshops &#124; Librarians Matter</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/conroys-speech-to-alia-information-online-2009/#comment-15367</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna Spencer Information Architecture workshops &#124; Librarians Matter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hour, I may not have been within rotten-egg throwing distance of  Senator Stephen Conroy (see a transcript of his talk here - note the jump from &#8220;filtering does not slow down the internet&#8221; to &#8220;we support [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] hour, I may not have been within rotten-egg throwing distance of  Senator Stephen Conroy (see a transcript of his talk here &#8211; note the jump from &#8220;filtering does not slow down the internet&#8221; to &#8220;we support [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel O'Connor</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/conroys-speech-to-alia-information-online-2009/#comment-15366</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel O'Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there&#039;s a missing line from the transcript:

&quot;... there has never been any suggestion that the Australian Government would seek to block political content&quot;.

&quot;... I mean we know this thing isn&#039;t even going to work, so you can hardly call it blocking political speech if it doesn&#039;t block anything it is supposed to now, can you.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s a missing line from the transcript:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; there has never been any suggestion that the Australian Government would seek to block political content&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; I mean we know this thing isn&#8217;t even going to work, so you can hardly call it blocking political speech if it doesn&#8217;t block anything it is supposed to now, can you.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/conroys-speech-to-alia-information-online-2009/#comment-15363</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;Freedom of speech is fundamentally important in a democratic society and there has never been any suggestion that the Australian Government would seek to block political content.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Seems that Conroy equates freedom of speech with political speech.  He has said this before and continues to say it.  I doubt that he even understands what &quot;freedom of speech&quot; means.

Political speech is (partly) protected by our constitution an as such he is not allowed to stop political speech and I suspect that is why he is equating freedom with political.  This way he can keep a straight face while &quot;lying&quot; about what will happen to free speech about issues that is not child friendly. 

Did anyone notice how he is trying to limit what we can see/read online to publishing laws, rather than what we can legally view, read and THINK.</description>
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<blockquote><p>Freedom of speech is fundamentally important in a democratic society and there has never been any suggestion that the Australian Government would seek to block political content.</p></blockquote>
<p>Seems that Conroy equates freedom of speech with political speech.  He has said this before and continues to say it.  I doubt that he even understands what &#8220;freedom of speech&#8221; means.</p>
<p>Political speech is (partly) protected by our constitution an as such he is not allowed to stop political speech and I suspect that is why he is equating freedom with political.  This way he can keep a straight face while &#8220;lying&#8221; about what will happen to free speech about issues that is not child friendly. </p>
<p>Did anyone notice how he is trying to limit what we can see/read online to publishing laws, rather than what we can legally view, read and THINK.</p>
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