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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/greens_last_century/#comment-6971</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 21:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Richard:&lt;/strong&gt; Thank you.

&lt;strong&gt;@Zhasper:&lt;/strong&gt; Excellent pointer, ta! That &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Explosion" rel="nofollow"&gt;Halifax explosion&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_artificial_non-nuclear_explosions" rel="nofollow"&gt;all the other big bangs&lt;/a&gt; do make for sobering reading. It's also interesting to read &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Hertfordshire_Oil_Storage_Terminal_fire" rel="nofollow"&gt;what really happens when an oil terminal catches fire&lt;/a&gt;, as opposed to what Bruce Schneier calls &lt;a href="http://www.schneier.com/essay-174.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;movie-plot terrorist scares&lt;/a&gt;.

There's two others I found particularly interesting:

&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;The &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_Scale" rel="nofollow"&gt;Minor Scale&lt;/a&gt; tests, essentially "let's pile up a lot of explosives and see what happens".&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The wreck of the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Richard_Montgomery" rel="nofollow"&gt;SS &lt;em&gt;Richard Montgomery&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, which has been sitting in the Thames Estuary since 1944 with 1500 tons of explosives on board. "Got a light, buddy?"&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;@jason:&lt;/strong&gt; I get the feeling that many of the less-sophisticated critics of foreign and military strategy have no understanding of how the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Americana" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pax Americana&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; of the last half-century has contributed to their &lt;a href="http://stilgherrian.com/politics/how_rich_are_you/" rel="nofollow"&gt;luxurious Western lifestyle&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, such rich veins of thought to mine fo this weekend's essay(s)...

But... "'us' greenies"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Richard:</strong> Thank you.</p>
<p><strong>@Zhasper:</strong> Excellent pointer, ta! That <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Explosion" rel="nofollow">Halifax explosion</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_artificial_non-nuclear_explosions" rel="nofollow">all the other big bangs</a> do make for sobering reading. It&#8217;s also interesting to read <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Hertfordshire_Oil_Storage_Terminal_fire" rel="nofollow">what really happens when an oil terminal catches fire</a>, as opposed to what Bruce Schneier calls <a href="http://www.schneier.com/essay-174.html" >movie-plot terrorist scares</a>.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s two others I found particularly interesting:</p>
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<li>The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_Scale" >Minor Scale</a> tests, essentially &#8220;let&#8217;s pile up a lot of explosives and see what happens&#8221;.</li>
<li>The wreck of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Richard_Montgomery" >SS <em>Richard Montgomery</em></a>, which has been sitting in the Thames Estuary since 1944 with 1500 tons of explosives on board. &#8220;Got a light, buddy?&#8221;</li>
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<p><strong>@jason:</strong> I get the feeling that many of the less-sophisticated critics of foreign and military strategy have no understanding of how the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Americana" rel="nofollow"><em>Pax Americana</em></a> of the last half-century has contributed to their <a href="http://stilgherrian.com/politics/how_rich_are_you/" >luxurious Western lifestyle</a>.</p>
<p>Oh, such rich veins of thought to mine fo this weekend&#8217;s essay(s)&#8230;</p>
<p>But&#8230; &#8220;&#8216;us&#8217; greenies&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/greens_last_century/#comment-6964</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 06:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's funny.  

Without big ships like that marshalling the world, we'd probably be in trouble from various fronts.

Without big ships like that causing trouble, we'd probably have less trouble on various fronts.

But, it's probably more of the former. Yes, yes, America is bad and Bush is Satan. But we could do a whole lot worse.  Lets wait to see how bored China gets after its Olympic party is over.  All us greenies might be shouting "quick, get those big ships over there!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny.  </p>
<p>Without big ships like that marshalling the world, we&#8217;d probably be in trouble from various fronts.</p>
<p>Without big ships like that causing trouble, we&#8217;d probably have less trouble on various fronts.</p>
<p>But, it&#8217;s probably more of the former. Yes, yes, America is bad and Bush is Satan. But we could do a whole lot worse.  Lets wait to see how bored China gets after its Olympic party is over.  All us greenies might be shouting &#8220;quick, get those big ships over there!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Zhasper</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/greens_last_century/#comment-6963</link>
		<dc:creator>Zhasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 05:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given that the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Explosion" rel="nofollow"&gt;largest artificial explosion&lt;/a&gt; in the world (other than nuclear) was an exploding warship... I don't think it needs nuclear weapons to be pretty scary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Explosion" >largest artificial explosion</a> in the world (other than nuclear) was an exploding warship&#8230; I don&#8217;t think it needs nuclear weapons to be pretty scary</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/greens_last_century/#comment-6962</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 04:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'The War on Foreign Men with Beards' - ooh, well played Sir!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;The War on Foreign Men with Beards&#8217; - ooh, well played Sir!</p>
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