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	<title>Comments on: Angry geeks: &#8220;Don&#8217;t waste money on internet filters&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Minutillo</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/internet_filters_waste_money/#comment-9619</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Minutillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 03:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster"&gt;Flying Spaghetti Monster&lt;/a&gt; style I think we should definitely demand that the government also install motion sensors into the bumper-bars of all road-legal vehicles which automatically brake the car if a child is spotted. And perhaps mandatory security guards for parks where children play to ensure they aren't snatched away. If we're going to have crack-pot schemes, let us do it properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster">Flying Spaghetti Monster</a> style I think we should definitely demand that the government also install motion sensors into the bumper-bars of all road-legal vehicles which automatically brake the car if a child is spotted. And perhaps mandatory security guards for parks where children play to ensure they aren&#8217;t snatched away. If we&#8217;re going to have crack-pot schemes, let us do it properly.</p>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/internet_filters_waste_money/#comment-9598</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, comments from Extremely Important Übergeeks Alastair Rankine and Simon Rumble in the same piece! I am seriously humbled!

&lt;strong&gt;@Simon Rumble:&lt;/strong&gt; Thank you! I was imagining a cross between Homer Simpson and &lt;em&gt;Yes Minister&lt;/em&gt;.

&lt;strong&gt;@Alastair:&lt;/strong&gt; Thanks for the pointer. Pimp away! I'll do the same to you. ;)

&lt;strong&gt;@Bernard:&lt;/strong&gt; The &lt;a href="http://blogs.brisbanetimes.com.au/bluntinstrument/archives/2008/01/penchant_for_po.html"&gt;John Birmingham piece&lt;/a&gt; really is a hoot. But sorry, I can't become that shiny-suited salesman. My sense of ethics simply wouldn't allow me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, comments from Extremely Important Übergeeks Alastair Rankine and Simon Rumble in the same piece! I am seriously humbled!</p>
<p><strong>@Simon Rumble:</strong> Thank you! I was imagining a cross between Homer Simpson and <em>Yes Minister</em>.</p>
<p><strong>@Alastair:</strong> Thanks for the pointer. Pimp away! I&#8217;ll do the same to you. <img src='http://stilgherrian.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>@Bernard:</strong> The <a href="http://blogs.brisbanetimes.com.au/bluntinstrument/archives/2008/01/penchant_for_po.html">John Birmingham piece</a> really is a hoot. But sorry, I can&#8217;t become that shiny-suited salesman. My sense of ethics simply wouldn&#8217;t allow me.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/internet_filters_waste_money/#comment-9588</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sort of policy is for punters who get their political analysis as well as their tech info from the same source; in Sydney that would be the &lt;em&gt;Terrorgraph&lt;/em&gt;... 

Rather than be an angry geek, why not become that Rich Geek and be that "shiny-suited salesman"...

Just make sure that the specs u negotiate with the contract are flexible enough to work say 85% of the time? That gotta be better than the current, huh?

Hey -- what is wrong with that? Prostitution and lying are age old habits. 

Not linked through to Birmo's commentary on this, but for hells sake -- an easier way of getting this sort of "nanny state" protection would be to encourage scared parents to just bloody well buy NetNanny or some such and offer them a tax rebate.

Sigh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sort of policy is for punters who get their political analysis as well as their tech info from the same source; in Sydney that would be the <em>Terrorgraph</em>&#8230; </p>
<p>Rather than be an angry geek, why not become that Rich Geek and be that &#8220;shiny-suited salesman&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Just make sure that the specs u negotiate with the contract are flexible enough to work say 85% of the time? That gotta be better than the current, huh?</p>
<p>Hey &#8212; what is wrong with that? Prostitution and lying are age old habits. </p>
<p>Not linked through to Birmo&#8217;s commentary on this, but for hells sake &#8212; an easier way of getting this sort of &#8220;nanny state&#8221; protection would be to encourage scared parents to just bloody well buy NetNanny or some such and offer them a tax rebate.</p>
<p>Sigh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alastair</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/internet_filters_waste_money/#comment-9586</link>
		<dc:creator>Alastair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 05:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I would argue that the current generation anti-spam filtering *is* quite effective. This is possibly not the comparison we want to draw; ministers may look at the huge flood of spam in their Junk folder and the relative scarcity of it in their Inbox, and conclude that nasties can be filtered from the internet using similarly advanced magic/technology.

The big problem I have with this proposal is that the government is outsourcing the regulation of behaviour on the internet. It is handing control of what people can and can't see to private interests. Private interests that, crucially, are not accountable to the general public. More &lt;a href="http://girtby.net/archives/2008/1/3/where-s-the-mandatory-filtering-for-government-stupidity"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, pardon the blogpimping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I would argue that the current generation anti-spam filtering *is* quite effective. This is possibly not the comparison we want to draw; ministers may look at the huge flood of spam in their Junk folder and the relative scarcity of it in their Inbox, and conclude that nasties can be filtered from the internet using similarly advanced magic/technology.</p>
<p>The big problem I have with this proposal is that the government is outsourcing the regulation of behaviour on the internet. It is handing control of what people can and can&#8217;t see to private interests. Private interests that, crucially, are not accountable to the general public. More <a href="http://girtby.net/archives/2008/1/3/where-s-the-mandatory-filtering-for-government-stupidity">here</a>, pardon the blogpimping.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Rumble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Rumble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 05:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the bit about the shiny suited salesman.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Meloni</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/internet_filters_waste_money/#comment-9578</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Meloni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For anyone who wants to do some further reading on why mandatory ISP filtering is such a 'technically bad idea,' check out EFA's analysis of the ALP plan: http://www.efa.org.au/Issues/Censor/mandatoryblocking.html

It is based on the 06 announcement, but the majority of it still applies. 

A lot of you have probably already read it, but hey, for those who haven't... 

- Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone who wants to do some further reading on why mandatory ISP filtering is such a &#8216;technically bad idea,&#8217; check out EFA&#8217;s analysis of the ALP plan: <a href="http://www.efa.org.au/Issues/Censor/mandatoryblocking.html" >http://www.efa.org.au/Issues/Censor/mandatoryblocking.html</a></p>
<p>It is based on the 06 announcement, but the majority of it still applies. </p>
<p>A lot of you have probably already read it, but hey, for those who haven&#8217;t&#8230; </p>
<p>- Mike</p>
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