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	<title>Comments on: Just being nude doesn&#8217;t make it porn, you sickos!</title>
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		<title>By: Andrew Newman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Newman</dc:creator>
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		<description>The original photograph &lt;a href=&quot;http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.sauer-thompson.com/junkforcode/archives/2008/05/25/HensonBuncensored.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.sauer-thompson.com/junkforcode/archives/2008/05/bill-henson-6-u.html&amp;h=443&amp;w=300&amp;sz=20&amp;hl=en&amp;start=1&amp;sig2=fiATHLM8bkTQvm_gCovJjQ&amp;um=1&amp;usg=__7EtwYeww1qjfE0NkHXjBXxQ7Tyg=&amp;tbnid=c6zC83U4S3KOFM:&amp;tbnh=127&amp;tbnw=86&amp;ei=bhsESdLvAZWUsAPps4CcCw&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsite:www.sauer-thompson.com%2Bdavid%2BMArr%2Bbill%2Bhenson%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den&quot;&gt;Untitled 2007/08&lt;/a&gt; is not pornographic but what of his earlier work &lt;a href=&quot;http://is.gd/4PC7&quot;&gt;Untitled 1985/86&lt;/a&gt; and Nan Goldwin&#039;s work &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.4debatetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5&quot;&gt;Klara and Eddy Belly-Dancing&lt;/a&gt; that was seized by police in London last year. Is that art or pornography? Elton John owns the work. I am sure he considers himself an art collector not a porn peddler. Just being nude might not make it porn but what does. David Marr said at his Sydney Ideas talk that it is really a matter of taste and we shouldn&#039;t feel the need to legislate taste. Marr said that Australians have an uncanny inability to distinguish the difference between &quot;things we don&#039;t like&quot; and &quot;things that are illegal&quot;. It is like the uproar regarding the Barry McKenzie movie and the efforts in attempting to prevent it from being screened overseas for fear it might present a distasteful image of Australia abroad. However the argument that it is a matter of taste falls sway to the idea that sticks and bones may break my bones but will words will never hurt me. Or images will never hurt me. 

Do we really need to protect ourselves from images? The distinction that says porn is the depiction of &quot;sexual acts&quot; is quite clear, we do not want to see or encourage photographs of children in sexual acts. But sexual contexts? There was no greater moment in my life where I was so absolutely stuck in a sexual context than when I was an adolescent. Sex was on my mind most of the time. By cordoning off adolescents from sexual contexts  in art and the media are we not in some way causing a bit of trouble, by putting blinkers on them, they won&#039;t know where they are or what to do and get themselves into all sorts of trouble that no chastity ring could rescue.

But then images can be used to corrupt and control people. Images shown and language used could influence/seduce vulnerable members of our society. One way of preventing this is through education, and focus on &#039;visualcy&#039; because we do live in a world of images and we need to learn to not let ourselves be controlled by that world of images. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aare.edu.au/95pap/kirkd95228.txt&quot;&gt;Here is an interesting study on female and male adolescents&#039; interpretations of body imagery in schools&lt;/a&gt;

What is also interesting about the new laws hinted at in the Sunday Telegraph is the offence &quot;meeting a child after &quot;grooming&quot; them with indecent material for sexual purposes&quot;. What if a father gives his son a Playboy? Is that grooming.

Strange that art inspired the establishment of these laws and not the MP grooming and having sex with school kids doing work experience. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23278400-2,00.html&quot;&gt;&#039;I think Milton was grooming me for sex&#039;&lt;/a&gt;

Sorry about the ramble and rant just been thinking about the Bill Henson thing a bit since yesterday when I stumbled upon this excellent (but a couple of weeks old)&lt;a href=&quot;http://artlife.blogspot.com/2008/10/salon-des-refuses-bill-henson.html&quot;&gt; article&lt;/a&gt; on the art life blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original photograph <a href="http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.sauer-thompson.com/junkforcode/archives/2008/05/25/HensonBuncensored.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.sauer-thompson.com/junkforcode/archives/2008/05/bill-henson-6-u.html&amp;h=443&amp;w=300&amp;sz=20&amp;hl=en&amp;start=1&amp;sig2=fiATHLM8bkTQvm_gCovJjQ&amp;um=1&amp;usg=__7EtwYeww1qjfE0NkHXjBXxQ7Tyg=&amp;tbnid=c6zC83U4S3KOFM:&amp;tbnh=127&amp;tbnw=86&amp;ei=bhsESdLvAZWUsAPps4CcCw&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsite:www.sauer-thompson.com%2Bdavid%2BMArr%2Bbill%2Bhenson%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den">Untitled 2007/08</a> is not pornographic but what of his earlier work <a href="http://is.gd/4PC7">Untitled 1985/86</a> and Nan Goldwin&#8217;s work <a href="http://www.4debatetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5">Klara and Eddy Belly-Dancing</a> that was seized by police in London last year. Is that art or pornography? Elton John owns the work. I am sure he considers himself an art collector not a porn peddler. Just being nude might not make it porn but what does. David Marr said at his Sydney Ideas talk that it is really a matter of taste and we shouldn&#8217;t feel the need to legislate taste. Marr said that Australians have an uncanny inability to distinguish the difference between &#8220;things we don&#8217;t like&#8221; and &#8220;things that are illegal&#8221;. It is like the uproar regarding the Barry McKenzie movie and the efforts in attempting to prevent it from being screened overseas for fear it might present a distasteful image of Australia abroad. However the argument that it is a matter of taste falls sway to the idea that sticks and bones may break my bones but will words will never hurt me. Or images will never hurt me. </p>
<p>Do we really need to protect ourselves from images? The distinction that says porn is the depiction of &#8220;sexual acts&#8221; is quite clear, we do not want to see or encourage photographs of children in sexual acts. But sexual contexts? There was no greater moment in my life where I was so absolutely stuck in a sexual context than when I was an adolescent. Sex was on my mind most of the time. By cordoning off adolescents from sexual contexts  in art and the media are we not in some way causing a bit of trouble, by putting blinkers on them, they won&#8217;t know where they are or what to do and get themselves into all sorts of trouble that no chastity ring could rescue.</p>
<p>But then images can be used to corrupt and control people. Images shown and language used could influence/seduce vulnerable members of our society. One way of preventing this is through education, and focus on &#8216;visualcy&#8217; because we do live in a world of images and we need to learn to not let ourselves be controlled by that world of images. <a href="http://www.aare.edu.au/95pap/kirkd95228.txt">Here is an interesting study on female and male adolescents&#8217; interpretations of body imagery in schools</a></p>
<p>What is also interesting about the new laws hinted at in the Sunday Telegraph is the offence &#8220;meeting a child after &#8220;grooming&#8221; them with indecent material for sexual purposes&#8221;. What if a father gives his son a Playboy? Is that grooming.</p>
<p>Strange that art inspired the establishment of these laws and not the MP grooming and having sex with school kids doing work experience. <a href="http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23278400-2,00.html">&#8216;I think Milton was grooming me for sex&#8217;</a></p>
<p>Sorry about the ramble and rant just been thinking about the Bill Henson thing a bit since yesterday when I stumbled upon this excellent (but a couple of weeks old)<a href="http://artlife.blogspot.com/2008/10/salon-des-refuses-bill-henson.html"> article</a> on the art life blog.</p>
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