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	<title>Comments on: Liberal Senator Barnett proposes abolishing fair trials</title>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/liberal-senator-barnett-proposes-abolishing-fair-trials/#comment-31731</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for mentioning the cases of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_6&quot;&gt;Birmingham 6&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhamed_Haneef&quot;&gt;Muhamed Haneef&lt;/a&gt;. They are both clear examples of how terrorism cases are often associated with immense political and media pressure to find, prosecute and convict the terrorists quickly.

The anti-terrorism laws provide additional layers of secrecy which make it much harder to detect when police or politicians have fabricated evidence or otherwise acted improperly. As I say, this automatically puts defendants in a weaker position, which may in turn require a more complex, vigorous and therefore expensive defence.

I find it worrying that those pushing &quot;we must get tough&quot; lines seem to be unaware of this or, if they are, reckon that our &quot;strong traditions of fairness and democracy&quot; will somehow magically protect us. History, even recent history, continues to show this is not the case, and has never been the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for mentioning the cases of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_6">Birmingham 6</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhamed_Haneef">Muhamed Haneef</a>. They are both clear examples of how terrorism cases are often associated with immense political and media pressure to find, prosecute and convict the terrorists quickly.</p>
<p>The anti-terrorism laws provide additional layers of secrecy which make it much harder to detect when police or politicians have fabricated evidence or otherwise acted improperly. As I say, this automatically puts defendants in a weaker position, which may in turn require a more complex, vigorous and therefore expensive defence.</p>
<p>I find it worrying that those pushing &#8220;we must get tough&#8221; lines seem to be unaware of this or, if they are, reckon that our &#8220;strong traditions of fairness and democracy&#8221; will somehow magically protect us. History, even recent history, continues to show this is not the case, and has never been the case.</p>
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		<title>By: yewenyi</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/liberal-senator-barnett-proposes-abolishing-fair-trials/#comment-31730</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_6&quot;&gt;Birmingham 6&lt;/a&gt; who were found guilty and then found innocent and know that the police and law courts can get it very wrong. And remember that those who are thus unjustly jailed should be paid large amounts of compensation and think that those who were responsible should be charged with perjury and perverting the course of justice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_6">Birmingham 6</a> who were found guilty and then found innocent and know that the police and law courts can get it very wrong. And remember that those who are thus unjustly jailed should be paid large amounts of compensation and think that those who were responsible should be charged with perjury and perverting the course of justice.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfcat</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/liberal-senator-barnett-proposes-abolishing-fair-trials/#comment-31728</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolfcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very valid points and well written.

Perhaps he needs to walk past a court and see that statue that is out the front.  Justice is shown as blind for a reason, not because it suits a political agenda.

This attitude was what caused the problems Dr Haneef, the govt did not get enough egg on its face when the case fell apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very valid points and well written.</p>
<p>Perhaps he needs to walk past a court and see that statue that is out the front.  Justice is shown as blind for a reason, not because it suits a political agenda.</p>
<p>This attitude was what caused the problems Dr Haneef, the govt did not get enough egg on its face when the case fell apart.</p>
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		<title>By: yeebok</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/liberal-senator-barnett-proposes-abolishing-fair-trials/#comment-31727</link>
		<dc:creator>yeebok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. I think that&#039;s a ridiculous comment from a pollie. Wish I could write that eloquently when I have the shits. Props to you on that !
Yeebs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. I think that&#8217;s a ridiculous comment from a pollie. Wish I could write that eloquently when I have the shits. Props to you on that !<br />
Yeebs</p>
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