Comments on: Mark Pesce on Internet filtering http://stilgherrian.com/politics/pesce_on_internet_filtering/ All publication is a political act. All communication is propaganda. All art is pornography. All business is personal. All hail Eris. Vive les poissons rouges sauvages! Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:24:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Fnord Prefect http://stilgherrian.com/politics/pesce_on_internet_filtering/#comment-9532 Fnord Prefect Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:39:35 +0000 http://stilgherrian.com/politics/pesce_on_internet_filtering/#comment-9532 <strong>@Stilgherrian:</strong> Yes, I agree that, in the long term, such amateur spying is doomed to fail. That does not mean that it can't do a great deal of damage to a lot of people along the way, and that is my main concern. @Stilgherrian: Yes, I agree that, in the long term, such amateur spying is doomed to fail. That does not mean that it can’t do a great deal of damage to a lot of people along the way, and that is my main concern.

]]> By: Stilgherrian http://stilgherrian.com/politics/pesce_on_internet_filtering/#comment-9531 Stilgherrian Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:52:13 +0000 http://stilgherrian.com/politics/pesce_on_internet_filtering/#comment-9531 <strong>@Fnord Prefect:</strong> I ran your comments past Mark Pesce on Facebook, and he says: <blockquote>Consider the Stazi. Did it work? Kinda sorta. Did it instill a broad paranoia? Kinda sorta. Did the East German government fall apart spectacularly? Absolutely.</blockquote> I think I agree. Bruce Schneier always says that <a href="http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/04/man_detained_fo.html">amateur spies perform amateur spying</a>. You end up with amateur intelligence product. The System gets so overwhelmed with low-grade trash that it's constantly chasing phantoms. @Fnord Prefect: I ran your comments past Mark Pesce on Facebook, and he says:

Consider the Stazi. Did it work? Kinda sorta. Did it instill a broad paranoia? Kinda sorta. Did the East German government fall apart spectacularly? Absolutely.

I think I agree. Bruce Schneier always says that amateur spies perform amateur spying. You end up with amateur intelligence product. The System gets so overwhelmed with low-grade trash that it’s constantly chasing phantoms.

]]> By: Fnord Prefect http://stilgherrian.com/politics/pesce_on_internet_filtering/#comment-9529 Fnord Prefect Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:15:18 +0000 http://stilgherrian.com/politics/pesce_on_internet_filtering/#comment-9529 Unfortunately, I find the thought of "social pressure" to be an even bigger chilling effect; we can rely on the government to be slow, inept, and ineffective in cases like this, but when you enlist every man and his dog to act as Big Brother, you start heading down a road I don't really want to contemplate... Unfortunately, I find the thought of “social pressure” to be an even bigger chilling effect; we can rely on the government to be slow, inept, and ineffective in cases like this, but when you enlist every man and his dog to act as Big Brother, you start heading down a road I don’t really want to contemplate…

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