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	<title>Comments on: Silly Newtown Kiddie-Socialists</title>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian &#183; Petitions might finally make a difference</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/silly_newtown_kiddie_socialists/#comment-9495</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian &#183; Petitions might finally make a difference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 02:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] those annoying socialists on King Street will finally achieve something with their endless petition-signing. Chairman Rudd will require [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] those annoying socialists on King Street will finally achieve something with their endless petition-signing. Chairman Rudd will require [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/silly_newtown_kiddie_socialists/#comment-7312</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 00:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Benjamin Solah:&lt;/strong&gt; Thanks for commenting, and welcome.

I &quot;know&quot; I heard &quot;Free Dr Haneef&quot; being proclaimed on Saturday, but I accept it could have been someone&#039;s slip of the tongue or my slip of the ear.

You need a conversation-starter, sure -- but given your explanation it seems, well, even &lt;em&gt;more&lt;/em&gt; perverse to spend time collecting signatures when you &lt;em&gt;know&lt;/em&gt; that petitions don&#039;t work. For me there&#039;s also a smack of the Scientologist about it -- you know, when they accost people in the street saying they&#039;re &quot;conducting a survey&quot; when in fact they&#039;re recruiting. But no, I can&#039;t think of a better political pick-up line.

For me, the bigger issue here is that &lt;strong&gt;in Newtown you&#039;re still preaching to the choir&lt;/strong&gt;. The energy would be better spent out in Howard&#039;s Battlerland, changing the minds of those who equate &quot;foreign&quot; with &quot;terrorist&quot;, no?

&lt;strong&gt;@Snarky Platypus:&lt;/strong&gt; Keelty&#039;s fight-to-the-end is now just embarrassing, IMHO. He chose to turn his job into a political position, and how he reaps what he sows. Agreed, we should be seeing his resignation today -- though early &lt;a href=&quot;http://stilgherrian.com/politics/poll_sacked_over_haneef/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;poll&lt;/a&gt; results suggest that Kevin Andrews is the one facing the axe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Benjamin Solah:</strong> Thanks for commenting, and welcome.</p>
<p>I &#8220;know&#8221; I heard &#8220;Free Dr Haneef&#8221; being proclaimed on Saturday, but I accept it could have been someone&#8217;s slip of the tongue or my slip of the ear.</p>
<p>You need a conversation-starter, sure &#8212; but given your explanation it seems, well, even <em>more</em> perverse to spend time collecting signatures when you <em>know</em> that petitions don&#8217;t work. For me there&#8217;s also a smack of the Scientologist about it &#8212; you know, when they accost people in the street saying they&#8217;re &#8220;conducting a survey&#8221; when in fact they&#8217;re recruiting. But no, I can&#8217;t think of a better political pick-up line.</p>
<p>For me, the bigger issue here is that <strong>in Newtown you&#8217;re still preaching to the choir</strong>. The energy would be better spent out in Howard&#8217;s Battlerland, changing the minds of those who equate &#8220;foreign&#8221; with &#8220;terrorist&#8221;, no?</p>
<p><strong>@Snarky Platypus:</strong> Keelty&#8217;s fight-to-the-end is now just embarrassing, IMHO. He chose to turn his job into a political position, and how he reaps what he sows. Agreed, we should be seeing his resignation today &#8212; though early <a href="http://stilgherrian.com/politics/poll_sacked_over_haneef/" >poll</a> results suggest that Kevin Andrews is the one facing the axe.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Solah</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/silly_newtown_kiddie_socialists/#comment-7298</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Solah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 03:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We doesn&#039;t mean me or anyone as an individual. The mass outrage at what&#039;s been happening to Haneef has really made it hard for Howard to use him as a  scape goat to steal another election.

They had to back down and the media had to shift quickly to avoid looking out of touch. The front page of the Telegraph is a good indication of that. It just shows that the mass of people are so much better than the assholes who rule us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We doesn&#8217;t mean me or anyone as an individual. The mass outrage at what&#8217;s been happening to Haneef has really made it hard for Howard to use him as a  scape goat to steal another election.</p>
<p>They had to back down and the media had to shift quickly to avoid looking out of touch. The front page of the Telegraph is a good indication of that. It just shows that the mass of people are so much better than the assholes who rule us.</p>
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		<title>By: Snarky Platypus</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/politics/silly_newtown_kiddie_socialists/#comment-7297</link>
		<dc:creator>Snarky Platypus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 03:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We&#039;ve gotten a victory&quot;

What exactly have you done to achieve this &quot;victory&quot;?  The government and other agencies involved did a very good job of sabotaging their own case - I&#039;m not sure what you had to do with that.

On a related note, Mick Keelty&#039;s interview in the SMH is hilarious.  Please Mick, commit career hara-kiri in order to retain whatever miserly shreds of dignity you have left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We&#8217;ve gotten a victory&#8221;</p>
<p>What exactly have you done to achieve this &#8220;victory&#8221;?  The government and other agencies involved did a very good job of sabotaging their own case &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure what you had to do with that.</p>
<p>On a related note, Mick Keelty&#8217;s interview in the SMH is hilarious.  Please Mick, commit career hara-kiri in order to retain whatever miserly shreds of dignity you have left.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Solah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Solah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 01:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I ought to comment as I was one of those socialists outside Dendy yesterday.

Petitions themselves don&#039;t do anything. And yes, politicians care little for any petition, marginal seat or not. But the point is it&#039;s a starting point for conversation and meeting others that may be willing to get involved.

Besides, we were calling for Justice for Haneef, not free Haneef. We&#039;ve gotten a victory out of the government and they look like idiots but this man&#039;s life is still ruined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I ought to comment as I was one of those socialists outside Dendy yesterday.</p>
<p>Petitions themselves don&#8217;t do anything. And yes, politicians care little for any petition, marginal seat or not. But the point is it&#8217;s a starting point for conversation and meeting others that may be willing to get involved.</p>
<p>Besides, we were calling for Justice for Haneef, not free Haneef. We&#8217;ve gotten a victory out of the government and they look like idiots but this man&#8217;s life is still ruined.</p>
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