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	<title>Comments on: Common Ground run by a dangerous cult?</title>
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	<description>All publication is a political act. All communication is propaganda. All art is pornography. All business is personal. All hail Eris.</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/religion/common_ground/#comment-12076</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 06:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@fatty samuels:&lt;/strong&gt; That's an interesting angle. I agree that helping the people in your own community directly is perhaps a Good Thing. However, given that when most people express concerns over where their charity dollar goes, I'm amazed you can happily let the money be spent on... whatever. Or do you choose the recipients more wisely?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@fatty samuels:</strong> That&#8217;s an interesting angle. I agree that helping the people in your own community directly is perhaps a Good Thing. However, given that when most people express concerns over where their charity dollar goes, I&#8217;m amazed you can happily let the money be spent on&#8230; whatever. Or do you choose the recipients more wisely?</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i "hope" that "Common Ground Cafe" and "Common Ground Australia" (the homelessness busting charity) are not in any way linked.

'twould be the first decent skandel of the Rudd Administration...

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/homelessness-role-for-pms-wife/2008/03/27/1206207300924.html

sorry not properly tagged...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i &#8220;hope&#8221; that &#8220;Common Ground Cafe&#8221; and &#8220;Common Ground Australia&#8221; (the homelessness busting charity) are not in any way linked.</p>
<p>&#8216;twould be the first decent skandel of the Rudd Administration&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/homelessness-role-for-pms-wife/2008/03/27/1206207300924.html" >http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/homelessness-role-for-pms-wife/2008/03/27/1206207300924.html</a></p>
<p>sorry not properly tagged&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: fatty samuels</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/religion/common_ground/#comment-12042</link>
		<dc:creator>fatty samuels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 06:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't give to 'charities' as such anymore. There are plenty of people needy enough of money to ask for money in the street. I would rather give to them. What they spend it on is their own business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t give to &#8216;charities&#8217; as such anymore. There are plenty of people needy enough of money to ask for money in the street. I would rather give to them. What they spend it on is their own business.</p>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/religion/common_ground/#comment-11972</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's &lt;a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/sect-subject-to-scrutiny/2008/03/24/1206207010881.html"&gt;a follow-up story&lt;/a&gt; in the &lt;em&gt;Sydney Morning Herald&lt;/em&gt; today: "The general manager of the Royal Easter Show said he would not be surprised if a café run at the event by a Christian sect was inspected by the state's workplace watchdog after revelations its workers were not being paid."

&lt;strong&gt;@Quatrefoil:&lt;/strong&gt; It's getting hard to know which charities are in accord with one's beliefs. Is more openness needed?

&lt;strong&gt;@Crispin Harris:&lt;/strong&gt; I'm with you on Sea Shepherd, of course, as I've previously written...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/sect-subject-to-scrutiny/2008/03/24/1206207010881.html">a follow-up story</a> in the <em>Sydney Morning Herald</em> today: &#8220;The general manager of the Royal Easter Show said he would not be surprised if a café run at the event by a Christian sect was inspected by the state&#8217;s workplace watchdog after revelations its workers were not being paid.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>@Quatrefoil:</strong> It&#8217;s getting hard to know which charities are in accord with one&#8217;s beliefs. Is more openness needed?</p>
<p><strong>@Crispin Harris:</strong> I&#8217;m with you on Sea Shepherd, of course, as I&#8217;ve previously written&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Crispin Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crispin Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 02:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For similar reasons, I avoid donations to political lobbyist organisations.

Too many of them have affiliations in unexpected directions, or spend too much of their donated income on "non-core" (i.e. non-helpful) activities.

(And when a high-profile green group starts being associated with Eco-Terrorist groups such as Sea Shepherd, I start to really wonder about the height &#38; stability of their moral high-ground. &#60;sigh&#62;).

These days, most of my donations go directly to the needy (by buying them food, not giving $$), or to organisations like ABM, St. Vincent De Paul &#38; the Salvation Army -- who publicly argue with policy makers about social justice issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For similar reasons, I avoid donations to political lobbyist organisations.</p>
<p>Too many of them have affiliations in unexpected directions, or spend too much of their donated income on &#8220;non-core&#8221; (i.e. non-helpful) activities.</p>
<p>(And when a high-profile green group starts being associated with Eco-Terrorist groups such as Sea Shepherd, I start to really wonder about the height &amp; stability of their moral high-ground. &lt;sigh&gt;).</p>
<p>These days, most of my donations go directly to the needy (by buying them food, not giving $$), or to organisations like ABM, St. Vincent De Paul &amp; the Salvation Army &#8212; who publicly argue with policy makers about social justice issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Quatrefoil</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/religion/common_ground/#comment-11969</link>
		<dc:creator>Quatrefoil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a similar bad taste over my (fortunately small) donations to the Mercy Foundation which turns out to be a Hillsong affiliated cult which has done serious damage to the young women I was trying to help.  I did realise it was a religious organisation, but without thinking about it too much, thought it was the Sisters of Mercy, who are not a bad bunch.  I think all my donations will go to the Smith Family in future, who are explicitly non religious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a similar bad taste over my (fortunately small) donations to the Mercy Foundation which turns out to be a Hillsong affiliated cult which has done serious damage to the young women I was trying to help.  I did realise it was a religious organisation, but without thinking about it too much, thought it was the Sisters of Mercy, who are not a bad bunch.  I think all my donations will go to the Smith Family in future, who are explicitly non religious.</p>
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