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	<itunes:summary>All publication is a political act. All communication is propaganda. All art is pornography. All business is personal. All hail Eris. Vive les poissons rouges sauvages!</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Talking smartphones and time zones on ABC Gold Coast</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was unexpected. A call yesterday from ABC Gold Coast to talk about whether smartphones were smart enough to properly handle the change to daylight saving tomorrow &#8212; or, more correctly, to deal with the situation when the Gold Coast doesn&#8217;t change time but locations just across the border in NSW do. The short answer, [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>This was unexpected. A call yesterday from <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/goldcoast/">ABC Gold Coast</a> to talk about whether smartphones were smart enough to properly handle the change to daylight saving tomorrow &#8212; or, more correctly, to deal with the situation when the Gold Coast doesn&#8217;t change time but locations just across the border in NSW do.</strong></p>
<p>The short answer, of course, is &#8220;It depends&#8221;.</p>
<p>The long answer was what I discussed with <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/profiles/content/s1855551.htm?site=goldcoast">Bernadette Young</a>, whether the phone is set to get its time automatically from the network or from the tome zone manually set by the user.</p>
<p>We also mentioned that stuff-up in 2006 when <a href="http://stilgherrian.com/business/daylight-saving-chaos/">Victoria changed the end date for daylight saving</a> at the last minute to make life easier for Commonwealth Games attendees, and confusing for everyone else.</p>

<p>The audio is ©2011 Australian Broadcasting Corporation, presented here as always because the ABC doesn’t generally post these live interviews and it’s a decent plug for them.</p>
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		<itunes:summary>This was unexpected. A call yesterday from ABC Gold Coast to talk about whether smartphones were smart enough to properly handle the change to daylight saving tomorrow -- or, more correctly, to deal with the situation when the Gold Coast doesn&#039;t change time but locations just across the border in NSW do.

The short answer, of course, is &quot;It depends&quot;.

The long answer was what I discussed with Bernadette Young, whether the phone is set to get its time automatically from the network or from the tome zone manually set by the user.

We also mentioned that stuff-up in 2006 when Victoria changed the end date for daylight saving at the last minute to make life easier for Commonwealth Games attendees, and confusing for everyone else.

The audio is Â©2011 Australian Broadcasting Corporation, presented here as always because the ABC doesnât generally post these live interviews and itâs a decent plug for them.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Daylight Saving Chaos</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tomorrow will reveal how much of a cock-up this daylight saving change has really been.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Which &#8220;genius&#8221; decided to extend daylight saving <a href="http://www.dpc.vic.gov.au/domino/Web_Notes/newmedia.nsf/955cbeae7df9460dca256c8c00152d2b/1e1c9b49ed5429e8ca2570a800047eb6!OpenDocument">to prevent confusion during the Commonwealth Games</a>? It&#8217;s already proving a problem &#8212; even more-so than first thought. Seasoned systems administrators are having trouble today with Windows, Mac OS X and Linux computers. When people return to work tomorrow it&#8217;ll be even worse&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;d promised myself that I wouldn&#8217;t blog about geek stuff. The blogosphere is already full of geeks talking to other geeks about their computers. But this issue has ramifications well beyond geekdom. It illustrates how poorly thought out the change was, and how poorly the software industry responded.</p>
<p>The Australian states which use daylight saving time over summer (NSW, Vic, ACT, Tas and SA) normally revert to standard time on the last Sunday in March. Today, in other words. But Melbourne&#8217;s <a href="http://www.melbourne2006.com.au/">Commonwealth Games</a> visitors would be &#8220;confused&#8221; (apparently) by changing time on this final day of the Games.</p>
<p>So these states decided that daylight saving would be extended a week until 2 April &#8212; just for this year. But most computer operating systems only know the &#8220;normal&#8221; rules. Unless they were updated, they&#8217;ve already changed back to standard time earlier today.</p>
<p>For Windows users, this was all handled very poorly by Microsoft.</p>
<ul>
<li>Because the Windows fix wasn&#8217;t security-related, it wasn&#8217;t labelled &#8220;critical&#8221; &#8212; so it wasn&#8217;t downloaded automatically by Windows Update.</li>
<li>Even downloading <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/912475/">the daylight saving Hotfix</a> and digesting <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/909915/">Microsoft&#8217;s easy to follow (ahem!)</a> overview wan&#8217;t enough. My own properly-patched Windows XP test computer still reverted to standard time anyway.</li>
<li>Microsoft&#8217;s patch has to be removed once this is over, because <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time#Microsoft_Windows">Windows can&#8217;t cope with different rules for different years</a>.</li>
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<p>Mac owners didn&#8217;t fare much better.</p>
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<li>Apple only provided the fix automatically for Macs running the latest &#8220;Tiger&#8221; version of OS X. Earlier versions needed a manual patch &#8212; which most users wouldn&#8217;t have known about.</li>
<li>Appointments I&#8217;ve recorded for next week in <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/entourage2004/entourage2004.aspx">Microsoft Entourage for Macintosh</a> are showing up one hour later than they should. There&#8217;s no update from Microsoft &#8212; not even a mention that there might be a problem. (Mind you, every appointment I&#8217;ve made over summer is labelled &#8220;Event and computer time zones do not match,&#8221; even though they do. Clearly there are deeper problems with the time code in Entourage.)</li>
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<p>And <a href="http://mailman.anu.edu.au/pipermail/link/2006-March/065777.html">some Linux machines reverted to standard time</a>, even though properly maintained, thanks to subtle software bugs.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s just the beginning&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li>Patching the operating system isn&#8217;t enough. Some programs use their own time conversion code instead of the operating system&#8217;s &#8212; including <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time#Java">the Java programming language</a> and (presumably) Entourage.</li>
<li>Devices such as routers with embedded software won&#8217;t update themselves anyway. If people are using, say, the &#8220;parental control&#8221; features of a Netgear router to block Internet access after 9pm, those rules will be wrong by an hour.</li>
<li>Computers are responsible for logging all sorts of information automatically. How can we be certain that the logs are correct? What happens when computer logs are the only legal record of when a transaction took place?</li>
<li>The problem extends beyond Australia. _Anyone_ doing business with Australia will find their appointments scheduled for the wrong time. How many systems administrators in Hong Kong will think that an update to Australian time zones affects them?</li>
<li>The media stories we&#8217;ve seen so far don&#8217;t look at the impact beyond <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/breaking/daylight-saving-may-muddle-computers/2006/03/20/1142703258278.html">people&#8217;s diaries being wrong</a>. Computers run all sorts of automated processes. End-of-day procedures set to happen at midnight will run an hour early.</li>
<li>Suggestions that you just change your computer&#8217;s time zone manually don&#8217;t work in South Australia. SA normally runs at GMT+0930, and <a href="http://www.geekrant.org/2006/02/01/commonwealth-games-patch/">most software doesn&#8217;t give you GMT+1030 as an option</a>. And in any event, this won&#8217;t fix the international coordination issues.</li>
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<p>But of course all this is too late. The Magic Time has already passed. And we&#8217;ll find out tomorrow how much of a cock-up this has been.</p>
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