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		<title>Ignoring iYomu</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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Since I wrote about that social networking site iYomu and then predicted it wouldn&#8217;t go anywhere, I&#8217;ve never been back. The only &#8220;friends&#8221; who&#8217;ve tried to link to me there are two complete strangers trying to win the million dollar challenge. I stand by my prediction.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://iyomu.com' title='iYomu'><img src='http://stilgherrian.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/iyomu-48w.jpg' alt='iYomu logo' class="imageleft" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Since I wrote about that <a href="http://stilgherrian.com/internet/iyomu_social_networking/">social networking site iYomu</a> and then <a href="http://stilgherrian.com/internet/iyomu_versus_facebook/">predicted it wouldn&#8217;t go anywhere</a>, I&#8217;ve never been back.</strong> The only &#8220;friends&#8221; who&#8217;ve tried to link to me there are two complete strangers trying to win the million dollar challenge. I stand by my prediction.</p>

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		<title>iYomu: too late to beat Facebook?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 03:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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iYomu, that &#8220;social networking for grown ups&#8221; site I wrote about, officially launched today &#8212; with US$1M in prize money up for grabs. And I&#8217;ve just written an article for Crikey explaining why I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;ll fly. I also reckon Facebook will win out over MySpace.
My argument in the Crikey article is that the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://iyomu.com' title='iYomu'><img src='http://stilgherrian.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/iyomu-48w.jpg' alt='iYomu logo' class="imageleft" /></a></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.iyomu.com">iYomu</a>, that &#8220;social networking for grown ups&#8221; site I <a href="http://stilgherrian.com/internet/iyomu_social_networking/">wrote</a> about, officially launched today &#8212; with US$1M in prize money up for grabs. And I&#8217;ve just written <a href="http://www.crikey.com.au/Media-and-Arts/20070813-Why-MySpace-for-grown-ups-wont-fly.html">an article for <em>Crikey</em></a> explaining why I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;ll fly. I also reckon <a href="http://www.facebook.com">Facebook</a> will win out over <a href="http://www.myspace.com">MySpace</a>.</strong></p>
<p>My argument in the <em>Crikey</em> article is that the key to success on the Internet is massive, uncontrolled growth. That means attracting a lot of users <em>fast</em> &#8212; and then selling out to someone like Rupert Murdoch before it all implodes. The problem is, the very nature of iYomu works against that rapid growth.</p>
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<li><strong>iYomu is over-18s only.</strong> No feral-keen cyberkids, so the social networks will grow more slowly.</li>
<li><strong>iYomu has left out the &#8220;confusing&#8221; functions that adults don&#8217;t &#8220;need&#8221;.</strong> But they&#8217;re the sizzle which attracts the geeky early adopters who spread the word. Those geeks are looking for &#8220;cool new toys&#8221; &#8212; they already have the basics like secure online file storage and an email address. They&#8217;ll &#8220;get&#8221; iYomu but they probably won&#8217;t stay.</li>
<li><strong>iYomu is concentrating on 1-to-1 communication rather than 1-to-many.</strong> But 1-to-many is <em>exactly</em> what social media sites are about. Sure, the target market is more wary of putting their life online for all to see &#8212; but what&#8217;s to offer that isn&#8217;t already there in Google&#8217;s <a href="http://www.gmail.com">Gmail</a>, <a href="http://google.com/calendar">Google Calendars</a> etc?</li>
<li>And the key one: <strong>Facebook is there already, and growing fast.</strong> At 30 million users today, that&#8217;s 250% growth in just two weeks!</li>
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<p>No-one wants to be the first to arrive at a party. Join iYomu today, and it&#8217;ll feel like an empty room. Join Facebook today, as I did on the weekend, and you&#8217;re bound to find at least one or two old friends straight away &#8212; and all the existing groups give you the sense that something&#8217;s happening.</p>
<p>(OK, it was creepy when <em>Crikey</em>&#8217;s National Affairs Editor, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Kerr">Christian Kerr</a> asked to become a &#8220;friend&#8221; even though we&#8217;ve never met or even exchanged email &#8212; especially since he&#8217;s worked for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Pyne">Christopher Pyne</a> and his profile photo shows him in a bathtub. But as I&#8217;ve mentioned before, <a href="http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue11_12/boyd/">&#8220;friend&#8221; means something different online</a>.)</p>
<p>Now <a href="http://www.myspace.com">MySpace</a> is currently the biggest kid on the block with more than 200 million users. But its teenage-bedroom aesthetic won&#8217;t appeal to &#8220;mainstream&#8221; adults. As danah boyd writes in <a href="http://www.danah.org/papers/essays/ClassDivisions.html">Viewing American class divisions through Facebook and MySpace</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>MySpace is still home for Latino/Hispanic teens, immigrant teens, &#8220;burnouts,&#8221; &#8220;alternative kids,&#8221; &#8220;art fags,&#8221; punks, emos, goths, gangstas, queer kids, and other kids who didn&#8217;t play into the dominant high school popularity paradigm.</strong> These are kids whose parents didn&#8217;t go to college, who are expected to get a job when they finish high school. These are the teens who plan to go into the military immediately after schools. Teens who are really into music or in a band are also on MySpace. MySpace has most of the kids who are socially ostracised at school because they are geeks, freaks, or queers.</p></blockquote>
<p>Facebook <em>does</em> have the right look, and it&#8217;s already well-differentiated from MySpace. Facebook grew out of Harvard and appeals to the &#8220;right&#8221; people &#8212; in Australian political terms, Howard&#8217;s aspirational &#8220;battlers&#8221; with McMansions.</p>
<blockquote><p>The goodie two shoes, jocks, athletes, or other &#8220;good&#8221; kids are now going to Facebook. <strong>These kids tend to come from families who emphasize education and going to college. They are part of what we&#8217;d call hegemonic society.</strong> They are primarily white, but not exclusively. They are in honours classes, looking forward to the prom, and live in a world dictated by after school activities.</p></blockquote>
<p>And as boyd points out:</p>
<blockquote><p>The division is cleanest in communities where the predator panic hit before MySpace became popular. In much of the midwest, teens heard about Facebook and MySpace at the same time. They were told that <strong>MySpace was bad while Facebook was key for college students seeking to make friends at college.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>The <em>Sydney Morning Herald</em> tells us about the <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/07/26/1185339134017.html">MySpace man-eaters</a>, the <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/web/cyberspace-stole-cathys-identity/2007/08/03/1185648154321.html">MySpace stalker</a> and the <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/web/cyberspace-stole-cathys-identity/2007/08/03/1185648154321.html">MySpace suicide girls</a>. Wow, has MySpace got an image problem!</p>
<p>So, Facebook is already there, growing fast, and has the &#8220;right&#8221; image to become a permanent social institution. iYomu has a lot of catching up to do &#8212; yet has built-in factors which will slow its growth.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/education/student/news/article756374.ece">Facebook turned down a $1.6 <em>billion</em> offer from Yahoo!</a> At the time I thought that was astoundingly arrogant. Today, I must reluctantly say I think it&#8217;s spot on.</strong></p>
<p>[<strong>Update</strong> 3pm: I've linked to <a href="http://www.crikey.com.au/Media-and-Arts/20070813-Why-MySpace-for-grown-ups-wont-fly.html">the article in <em>Crikey</em></a>, but it's subscriber-only content.]</p>

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		<title>iYomu: &#8220;Social Networking for Grown Ups&#8221;?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 08:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Every single person working in the media today who experienced the dot-com bubble in 1999 to 2000 believes that we are going through the exact same process and can expect the exact same results  &#8212; a bust. It&#8217;s déjà vu all over again. And since this moment in time is only the beginning of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>&#8220;Every single person working in the media today who experienced the dot-com bubble in 1999 to 2000 believes that we are going through the exact same process and can expect the exact same results  &#8212; a bust. <a href="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2164136,00.asp">It&#8217;s déjà vu all over again.</a> And since this moment in time is only the beginning of the cycle, the best nuttiness has yet to emerge.&#8221;</em></strong></p>
<p><a href='http://iyomu.com' title='iYomu'><img src='http://stilgherrian.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/iyomu-48w.jpg' alt='iYomu logo' class="imageleft" /></a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s ironic reading those words by John C Dvorak the very day after seeing last night&#8217;s demo of <strong><a href="http://iyomu.com">iYomu</a>, the &#8220;Social Networking for Grown Ups&#8221; website to be launched on 13 August</strong>. It&#8217;s also rather nostalgic.</p>
<p>iYomu is entering an over-hyped marketplace. <a href="http://www.myspace.com">MySpace</a> is the biggest of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_media">social media</a> websites &#8212; pig-ugly and (last time I bothered with it) a tad unreliable. But it&#8217;s got 201 <em>million</em> users. <strong>If MySpace were a country, it&#8217;d be 5th-largest.</strong> <a href="http://www.facebook.com">Facebook</a> is flavour of the month, &#8220;only&#8221; 11 million users but <a href="http://valleywag.com/tech/online-advertising/facebook-doubles-its-rates-in-four-months-284562.php">growing fast</a>. Photo-sharing site <a href="http://flickr.com">Flickr</a> gets 3000 new images uploaded <em>every minute</em>. They&#8217;re worth squillions. In theory.</p>
<p>Yet the vast majority of Internet users wouldn&#8217;t know what &#8220;social networking websites&#8221; are &#8212; indeed they can barely use email. And for all the success stories, there&#8217;s dozens of failures.</p>
<p>So as sharp-dressed Frances Valintine and a relaxed David Wolf-Rooney, both New Zealanders, presented their Vision to a small collection of eminent bloggers (plus me), I couldn&#8217;t help but wonder&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Will they become millionaires, or will it all crash and burn?</strong></p>
<p>I also wondered how many times Frances would use the word <a href="http://stilgherrian.com/internet/its_not_a_space/">space</a>. I stopped counting at 15.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll explore iYomu and report daily as it moves from beta to launch and beyond. I think it&#8217;ll make an excellent case study. If you&#8217;d like to join me and be eligible for the <strong>US$5000 prize draw</strong>, <a href="mailto:stilgherrian.com&#038;subject=iYomu%20invitation">let me know</a> and I&#8217;ll send you an invitation &#8212; though I&#8217;ll demand that you post at least one useful comment back and, if you win, buy me dinner.</p>
<p>(There&#8217;s also a Big Global Incentive to join once the site launches officially, and you&#8217;d be in that draw too, but that&#8217;s still a secret.)</p>
<p>There&#8217;s still one thing bothering me from last night, though. If iYomu is for &#8220;grown ups&#8221;, why doesn&#8217;t it have a grown-up name?</p>
<p>[<strong>Update:</strong> Check out this <a href="http://blogpond.com.au/2007/08/02/iyomucom-social-networking-for-grown-ups/">more detailed description</a> from one of last night's attendees. Saves me having to repeat the feature list. <strong>And also read my thoughts on <a href="http://stilgherrian.com/internet/iyomu_versus_facebook/">why Facebook will beat both iYomyu and MySpace</a>.</strong>]</p>

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