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		<itunes:summary>Live Internet broadcasts from Stilgherrian. All publication is a political act. All communication is propaganda. All art is pornography. All business is personal. All hail Eris.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Who do you nominate for &#8220;Cnut of the Week&#8221;?</title>
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Stilgherrian Live, my live Internet program, returns tomorrow night, and I need nominations for this week&#8217;s &#8220;Cnut of the Week&#8221;.
If you missed the last two episodes, well, the segment &#8220;Cnut of the Week&#8221; is dedicated to the memory of King Cnut the Great, also known as Canute, a Viking ruler of England and Denmark, and [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong><em>Stilgherrian Live</em>, my <a href="http://stilgherrian.com/live/">live Internet program</a>, returns tomorrow night, and I need nominations for this week&#8217;s &#8220;Cnut of the Week&#8221;.</strong></p>
<p>If you missed the last two episodes, well, the segment &#8220;Cnut of the Week&#8221; is dedicated to the memory of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canute_the_Great">King Cnut the Great</a>, also known as Canute, a Viking ruler of England and Denmark, and Norway, and of some of Sweden variously from 1016 to 1035 CE.</p>
<p>Cnut is best known for attempting to hold back the tide. As 12th-century chronicler <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_of_Huntingdon">Henry of Huntingdon</a> tells it, Cnut set his throne on the shore and commanded the tide to halt &#8212; but of course it didn&#8217;t stop. Cnut leapt back and said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Let all men know how empty and worthless is the power of kings, for there is none worthy of the name, but He whom heaven, earth, and sea obey by eternal laws.</p></blockquote>
<p>He then hung his gold crown on a crucifix, and never wore it again.</p>
<p>This story about Cnut may not be true, and it&#8217;s really praising the greatness of the Christian God whom I do not worship. But I prefer the other interpretation: that Cnut staged the scene to rebuke the flattery of his courtiers, and to demonstrate that the forces of nature are mightier than any mere human.</p>
<p><strong>In <em>Stilgherrian Live</em>, I nominate as &#8220;Cnut of the Week&#8221; people who futilely resist the forces of change.</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m particularly interested in examples of trying to hold back the changes brought by the Internet, with its greater connectivity, transparency and democracy. And you get to vote.</p>
<p>In episode 7, for example, I nominated Senator Stephen Conroy for trying to filter &#8220;bad stuff&#8221; from the Internet, a sea cucumber (don&#8217;t ask!), NSW Premier Morris Iemma for being a Pointless Cnut generally, and the entire government of China for their oppressive censorship &#8212; with China as the clear winner.</p>
<p>In episode 8, commentator Greg Barns won with his call for Facebook, MySpace and other social media websites to moderate all of their content, beating consultant Dan Kaminsky who dared tell us that the Internet isn&#8217;t secure (fighting the tide of ignorance-is-bliss) and the commissioner of the Australian Federal Police, Mick Keelty, for persisting in the persecution of Mohammed Haneef in the face of an overwhelming lack of evidence.</p>
<p><strong>So, who do you nominate this week, and why?</strong></p>

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		<description><![CDATA[And episode 8 of Stilgherrian Live Alpha, the final in the Alpha series, is now online. This special edition (an hour!) included our short film The Shave.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>And episode 8 of <a href="http://stilgherrian.com/live/"><em>Stilgherrian Live Alpha</em></a>, the final in the Alpha series, is <a href="http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/616613">now online</a>.</strong> This special edition (an hour!) included our short film <em>The Shave</em>.</p>

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		<title>Weekly Poll: Who should be sacked over Dr Haneef?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 01:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By any measure, the arrest and detention of Dr Mohammed Haneef on terrorism charges turned into a debacle. Much has already been written about it &#8212; and there&#8217;ll be a lot more to come, rest assured. The question that interests me right now, though, is who&#8217;ll wear the blame?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>By any measure, the arrest and detention of Dr Mohammed Haneef on terrorism charges turned into a debacle.</strong> Much has already been written about it &#8212; and there&#8217;ll be a lot more to come, rest assured. The question that interests me right now, though, is who&#8217;ll wear the blame?</p>
<p>The new poll on my <a href="http://stilgherrian.com">website</a> asks a simple question: <strong>Who should be sacked?</strong></p>
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<li>Federal police commissioner <strong>Mick Keelty</strong>? News today is that he&#8217;s <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/mick-keelty-fights-back/2007/07/28/1185339327636.html">blaming everyone else</a> &#8212; but his organisation was in charge of the investigation, wasn&#8217;t it?</li>
<li><strong>Damian Bugg</strong> QC, Director of Public Prosecutions. While he did step in eventually, you&#8217;d have thought that in such a politically-sensitive case he&#8217;d have been involved from the start.</li>
<li><strong>Kevin Andrews</strong>, Minister for Immigration. Dear dear dear, Kevin, first WorkChoices and now this. <a href="http://stilgherrian.com/pollsarchive/">Last week&#8217;s poll</a> suggested you&#8217;d be first voted off the island, and it&#8217;s looking even more likely now.</li>
<li>Attorney-General <strong>Phillip Ruddock</strong>, for sticking his oar into the mess.</li>
<li>and I&#8217;ve made some other suggestions too.</li>
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<p>If you vote, also feel free to post some comments here explaining your choice.</p>

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		<title>Fed Police chief proposes &#8220;Reprogramming&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Australian Federal Police commissioner Mick Keelty has crossed the line by suggesting that we "re-program" people who have inconvenient political belief.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>You probably missed it, but last week <a href="http://www.afp.gov.au/">Australian Federal Police</a> commissioner <a href="http://www.afp.gov.au/afp/page/AboutAFP/commissioner.htm">Mick Keelty</a> actually proposed forcibly &#8220;reprogramming&#8221; people&#8217;s political beliefs.</strong></p>
<p>Speaking on ABC TV&#8217;s <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/"><em>Lateline</em></a> on 8 March, Keelty says we should look at techniques which have been used &#8220;successfully&#8221; in such bastions of human rights as Indonesia, Singapore and Pakistan &#8212; even referring to it as &#8220;best practice&#8221;.</p>
<p>Keelty equates reprogramming people to convincing an informer to give evidence, and says <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2006/s1587232.htm">this is the next step&#8230; to re-program somebody who has a belief or holds a belief</a>. It has already been discussed with the government in the context of anti-terrorism control orders.</p>
<p>Commissioner Keelty, just in case you&#8217;ve forgotten <a href="http://www.hrweb.org/legal/cpr.html#Article%2018.1">Articles 18 and 19 of the UN Covenant on Civil and Political Rights</a>, here&#8217;s a refresher&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Belief: a Basic Human Right</strong></p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.hrweb.org/legal/cpr.html">UN Covenant on Civil and Political Rights</a> was signed and ratified by Australia.</p>
<blockquote><p>18.1 Everyone shall have the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion&#8230;</p>
<p>18.2 No one shall be subject to coercion which would impair his freedom to have or to adopt a religion or belief of his choice&#8230;</p>
<p>19.1 Everyone shall have the right to hold opinions without interference.  </p>
<p>19.2 Everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of his choice. </p></blockquote>
<p>The <a href="http://www.hrweb.org/legal/cpr.html">UN Covenant on Civil and Political Rights</a> expands upon the <a href="http://www.hrweb.org/legal/udhr.html">Universal Declaration of Human Rights,</a> and it does have provisions for &#8220;limitations as are prescribed by law and are necessary to protect public safety, order, health, or morals or the fundamental rights and freedoms of others&#8221;.</p>
<p>But the key word is <em>necessary</em>. Not <em>convenient</em> or <em>useful</em>, but <em>necessary</em>. You may only restrict human rights if there&#8217;s <em>no other method at all</em> for preserving our safety. There&#8217;s a burden of proof there, and Keelty hasn&#8217;t even begun to address it.</p>
<p><strong>Who&#8217;s Belief?</strong></p>
<p>The dangerous question, of course, is who chooses what political beliefs we &#8220;should&#8221; have.</p>
<p>Keelty was careful to call his proposal &#8220;de-programming&#8221; &#8212; making a distinction between the bad &#8220;brainwashing&#8221; or &#8220;programming&#8221; done by Them and the healthy &#8220;de-programming&#8221; done by Us.</p>
<p>But whether a change in belief is &#8220;forward&#8221; programming or &#8220;reverse&#8221; de-programming or sideways &#8220;re-programming&#8221; is simply a matter of <em>your</em> political beliefs and how you want to spin it.</p>
<p><strong>Spin 1: Make it sound community-minded</strong></p>
<p>Keelty admits there might be a PR problem here. He says we need to&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;be very careful as to how we present those operations, not only back to the Australian community, but to those within the community who might otherwise take up the the cause because they see one part of their community being disenfranchised or mistreated by the authorities.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Quite.</p>
<p>So he tries hard to make it sound humane, twice mentioning that you might &#8220;turn&#8221; someone using &#8220;somebody who&#8217;s influential within the community. A respected imam, for example&#8221; &#8212; once more reinforcing <em>en passant</em> the propaganda that terrorist = Muslim.</p>
<p>But in the end Keelty is quite pragmatic:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The best scenario would be&#8230; the one that is likely to yield the best results.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>And what is best? Well, this technique&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;also opens up the opportunity to get information that would otherwise not be available.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Spin 2: Make it sound medical</strong></p>
<p>Commissioner Keelty also tries to equate his &#8220;de-programming&#8221; to treating drug addition. After all, it&#8217;s &#8220;healthy&#8221; if we&#8217;re treating a &#8220;sickness&#8221;.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;People who believe something that the wider community doesn&#8217;t believe in and certainly doesn&#8217;t understand and when you get into the realms of suicide bombers, that is something that is so foreign to, I guess, our way of thinking that somebody who is in that position has to not be thinking rationally. So if I guess the extension of that is if they&#8217;re acting and thinking irrationally, then how do we convert that behaviour and bring it back to rational behaviour? In a sense, that is a sickness.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Except for one tiny problem.</p>
<p>The health model is about getting the best result <em>for the patient</em>, based on the medical opinion of qualified doctors. That&#8217;s not the same as getting &#8220;the best result&#8221; for policeman who are after &#8220;the opportunity to get information&#8221;.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2006/s1587232.htm">full transcript of the interview</a> makes interesting reading.</p>

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