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		<title>By: Jeffrey Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/toto/project-toto-the-secretmission-has-begun/#comment-24404</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG! the whole thing is amazing. well done Stil for taking a stand and actually doing something that might make a difference. I&#039;ll see if I can get to your farewell.... won&#039;t be till late tho; I have a student Sat arvos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG! the whole thing is amazing. well done Stil for taking a stand and actually doing something that might make a difference. I&#8217;ll see if I can get to your farewell&#8230;. won&#8217;t be till late tho; I have a student Sat arvos.</p>
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		<title>By: ownablackid</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/toto/project-toto-the-secretmission-has-begun/#comment-23385</link>
		<dc:creator>ownablackid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 06:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck Stil. this sounds like it will be an exciting mission. though we dont want to get too caught up in the historical implications of &#039;mission&#039; i guess. 

show those natives how to BLOG! (though i do think there are already a few bloggers in TZ.  this link may be good local contact http://www.tanzaniagateway.org/civilsociety/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck Stil. this sounds like it will be an exciting mission. though we dont want to get too caught up in the historical implications of &#8216;mission&#8217; i guess. </p>
<p>show those natives how to BLOG! (though i do think there are already a few bloggers in TZ.  this link may be good local contact <a href="http://www.tanzaniagateway.org/civilsociety/" >http://www.tanzaniagateway.org/civilsociety/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/toto/project-toto-the-secretmission-has-begun/#comment-21461</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 01:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;As I mentioned before, I was planning to write a considered response to this gnome question. &lt;a href=&quot;http://stilgherrian.com/human-nature/look-about-that-damn-topless-gnome/&quot;&gt;That response is now online&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/strong&gt;

It took more than eight hours all up, so I&#039;m going to take a bit of a break for now. I&#039;ll be moderating comments, but won&#039;t make any detailed responses until later today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>As I mentioned before, I was planning to write a considered response to this gnome question. <a href="http://stilgherrian.com/human-nature/look-about-that-damn-topless-gnome/">That response is now online</a>.</strong></p>
<p>It took more than eight hours all up, so I&#8217;m going to take a bit of a break for now. I&#8217;ll be moderating comments, but won&#8217;t make any detailed responses until later today.</p>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian &#183; Look, about that damn topless gnome&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/toto/project-toto-the-secretmission-has-begun/#comment-21457</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian &#183; Look, about that damn topless gnome&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 01:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The logical gap has already been pointed out by vealmince. Yes, terrible things are done to women. But that connects back to this clay garden gnome how, exactly? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The logical gap has already been pointed out by vealmince. Yes, terrible things are done to women. But that connects back to this clay garden gnome how, exactly? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jakaya Kikwete in the US to promote Tanzania 2.0 &#171; Woolly Days</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/toto/project-toto-the-secretmission-has-begun/#comment-21449</link>
		<dc:creator>Jakaya Kikwete in the US to promote Tanzania 2.0 &#171; Woolly Days</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 22:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blogger and tech writer Stilgherrian will get the chance to see first hand just how far Kikwete’s technological revolution is kicking [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Chenery</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/toto/project-toto-the-secretmission-has-begun/#comment-21447</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Chenery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 22:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummm, where&#039;s Stil in all this? It&#039;s his thoughts I&#039;m most interested in right now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm, where&#8217;s Stil in all this? It&#8217;s his thoughts I&#8217;m most interested in right now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Seyfang</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/toto/project-toto-the-secretmission-has-begun/#comment-21422</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Seyfang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 11:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Stilgherrian loses some of his irreverence, #toto mission loses some of its soul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Stilgherrian loses some of his irreverence, #toto mission loses some of its soul.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Stockwell</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/toto/project-toto-the-secretmission-has-begun/#comment-21411</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Stockwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 08:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far, tits are winning this debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far, tits are winning this debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Archie Law</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/toto/project-toto-the-secretmission-has-begun/#comment-21406</link>
		<dc:creator>Archie Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 06:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Veal mince, I&#039;m in complete disagreement with your arguments in your last post (certainty is always reassuring) but I can hear the sound of the dead horse being flogged in our exchange. 

We are in a position of influence, we need to use that influence carefully and I haven&#039;t,  and don&#039;t, threaten anyone. I have been expressing an opinion on this misplaced gnome as our agreement with Stil is that he has freedom to move.  This is why we took this project on in the first place rather than using a more traditional approach for the launch of ActionAid Australia. 

We are very much looking forward to Stil getting on the ground in Tanzania, there will be some incredible stories coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Veal mince, I&#8217;m in complete disagreement with your arguments in your last post (certainty is always reassuring) but I can hear the sound of the dead horse being flogged in our exchange. </p>
<p>We are in a position of influence, we need to use that influence carefully and I haven&#8217;t,  and don&#8217;t, threaten anyone. I have been expressing an opinion on this misplaced gnome as our agreement with Stil is that he has freedom to move.  This is why we took this project on in the first place rather than using a more traditional approach for the launch of ActionAid Australia. </p>
<p>We are very much looking forward to Stil getting on the ground in Tanzania, there will be some incredible stories coming.</p>
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		<title>By: vealmince</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/toto/project-toto-the-secretmission-has-begun/#comment-21398</link>
		<dc:creator>vealmince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 03:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Archie, at least we agree you have no moral authority whatsoever, but you&#039;re still trying to claim one. And that&#039;s not just me getting tangled into logical linguine.

When you say &#039;You need to get rid of the gnome because RAPE RAPE RAPE DOG BREASTFEEDING!&#039; (ew), you are using the very serious and terrible issue of rape to lend credibility (moral authority, if you like) to your opinion that a garden gnome might be offensive to some women. Even though, by your own admission, there&#039;s no connection. Because it&#039;s easier, and for some people more persuasive, than arguing for removing the gnome based on your opinion alone.

And given you&#039;re paying for Stilgherrian&#039;s ticket etc, aren&#039;t you in a position of considerable power, or at least influence? So when you say things like &quot;Bad news Stil the gnome has to go&quot; and &quot;you need to remove the gnome!&quot;, is this merely expressing an opinion, or being a bully and trying to censor? There is an implied threat, no?

There&#039;s a difference between expressing your opinion and using propaganda and power to get your way. As head of an organisation that works to help the poor and powerless, you should be very careful about crossing that line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Archie, at least we agree you have no moral authority whatsoever, but you&#8217;re still trying to claim one. And that&#8217;s not just me getting tangled into logical linguine.</p>
<p>When you say &#8216;You need to get rid of the gnome because RAPE RAPE RAPE DOG BREASTFEEDING!&#8217; (ew), you are using the very serious and terrible issue of rape to lend credibility (moral authority, if you like) to your opinion that a garden gnome might be offensive to some women. Even though, by your own admission, there&#8217;s no connection. Because it&#8217;s easier, and for some people more persuasive, than arguing for removing the gnome based on your opinion alone.</p>
<p>And given you&#8217;re paying for Stilgherrian&#8217;s ticket etc, aren&#8217;t you in a position of considerable power, or at least influence? So when you say things like &#8220;Bad news Stil the gnome has to go&#8221; and &#8220;you need to remove the gnome!&#8221;, is this merely expressing an opinion, or being a bully and trying to censor? There is an implied threat, no?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a difference between expressing your opinion and using propaganda and power to get your way. As head of an organisation that works to help the poor and powerless, you should be very careful about crossing that line.</p>
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		<title>By: Archie Law</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/toto/project-toto-the-secretmission-has-begun/#comment-21394</link>
		<dc:creator>Archie Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 01:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Toejam, I know it&#039;s Stil&#039;s desk and not mine and I&#039;m looking forward to reading Stil&#039;s response to this at some point.  This is all Stil&#039;s call, its a free world of social media out there and Stil is a free agent not our agent.  For me the gnome is contrary to my personal views and the views of the organisation that I work for and have the deepest respect for. Therefore noise will be made and I&#039;m enjoying the discussion.

I can probably do without the accusations but its a free space and you&#039;re free to accuse anyone of being anything. Enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Toejam, I know it&#8217;s Stil&#8217;s desk and not mine and I&#8217;m looking forward to reading Stil&#8217;s response to this at some point.  This is all Stil&#8217;s call, its a free world of social media out there and Stil is a free agent not our agent.  For me the gnome is contrary to my personal views and the views of the organisation that I work for and have the deepest respect for. Therefore noise will be made and I&#8217;m enjoying the discussion.</p>
<p>I can probably do without the accusations but its a free space and you&#8217;re free to accuse anyone of being anything. Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: Archie Law</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/toto/project-toto-the-secretmission-has-begun/#comment-21393</link>
		<dc:creator>Archie Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 01:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No insults or implications veal mince. I&#039;m simply noting your ability to twist yourself into knots by your use of overly emotive lines such as my &quot;ridiculous claim to moral authority&quot; which is interesting as I have no moral authority whatsoever. I&#039;m just presenting a point of view on the importance of dignity and respect and you happen to disagree with my stance on the gnome..so what&#039;s the problem?  

I&#039;m not actually in this to build any image. I am who I am, I believe in what I believe in based on my experiences working with people who are poor on four continents over the last 15 years and that&#039;s that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No insults or implications veal mince. I&#8217;m simply noting your ability to twist yourself into knots by your use of overly emotive lines such as my &#8220;ridiculous claim to moral authority&#8221; which is interesting as I have no moral authority whatsoever. I&#8217;m just presenting a point of view on the importance of dignity and respect and you happen to disagree with my stance on the gnome..so what&#8217;s the problem?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not actually in this to build any image. I am who I am, I believe in what I believe in based on my experiences working with people who are poor on four continents over the last 15 years and that&#8217;s that.</p>
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		<title>By: Toejam</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/toto/project-toto-the-secretmission-has-begun/#comment-21392</link>
		<dc:creator>Toejam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 01:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The kind of person who gets up in arms over &quot;a garden gnome with its boobs hanging out making a mockery of women&quot; is exactly the kind of person I would accuse of &quot;being some sort of moral prude&quot;, or at the very least bearing a rather unflattering resemblance to Clive Hamilton.

&quot;why not get the damm thing off Stil’s desk?&quot; Because it&#039;s Stil&#039;s desk, not yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The kind of person who gets up in arms over &#8220;a garden gnome with its boobs hanging out making a mockery of women&#8221; is exactly the kind of person I would accuse of &#8220;being some sort of moral prude&#8221;, or at the very least bearing a rather unflattering resemblance to Clive Hamilton.</p>
<p>&#8220;why not get the damm thing off Stil’s desk?&#8221; Because it&#8217;s Stil&#8217;s desk, not yours.</p>
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		<title>By: vealmince</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/toto/project-toto-the-secretmission-has-begun/#comment-21389</link>
		<dc:creator>vealmince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 00:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there&#039;s no link, Archie, why do you keep posting links to lurid descriptions of crimes against women, as if they lend your ridiculous claim moral authority? And why do you have to insult everyone who disagrees with you? They&#039;re just cheap and transparent rhetorical tricks that lower the tone of the debate.

It&#039;s not that I&#039;m in favour of disrespect for women, as you imply, it&#039;s just that there&#039;s no connection with poor old Gnaomi.

I don&#039;t know if you&#039;ve looked at many garden gnomes, but the point of them is that they&#039;re grotesque parodies of PEOPLE. They&#039;re supposed to be ugly and undignified. But nobody looks at a male garden gnome and says, &#039;Harumph! This is offensive to more than 20% of men in US prisons who are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hrw.org/legacy/reports/2001/prison/report.html&quot;&gt;victims of rape or forced sexual contact&lt;/a&gt;.&#039;

(See, I can link to unpleasant things as well, but it doesn&#039;t prove or disprove my argument.)

I have a lot of respect for ActionAid&#039;s work, but you&#039;re not doing your image any favours with all this bluster and bullying over something so completely inconsequential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there&#8217;s no link, Archie, why do you keep posting links to lurid descriptions of crimes against women, as if they lend your ridiculous claim moral authority? And why do you have to insult everyone who disagrees with you? They&#8217;re just cheap and transparent rhetorical tricks that lower the tone of the debate.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that I&#8217;m in favour of disrespect for women, as you imply, it&#8217;s just that there&#8217;s no connection with poor old Gnaomi.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ve looked at many garden gnomes, but the point of them is that they&#8217;re grotesque parodies of PEOPLE. They&#8217;re supposed to be ugly and undignified. But nobody looks at a male garden gnome and says, &#8216;Harumph! This is offensive to more than 20% of men in US prisons who are <a href="http://www.hrw.org/legacy/reports/2001/prison/report.html">victims of rape or forced sexual contact</a>.&#8217;</p>
<p>(See, I can link to unpleasant things as well, but it doesn&#8217;t prove or disprove my argument.)</p>
<p>I have a lot of respect for ActionAid&#8217;s work, but you&#8217;re not doing your image any favours with all this bluster and bullying over something so completely inconsequential.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Whitehead</title>
		<link>http://stilgherrian.com/toto/project-toto-the-secretmission-has-begun/#comment-21383</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Whitehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 22:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s big wild things with large teeth and a love of white flesh in Tanzania. :)</description>
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