@jpwarren Complicated question. But this isn’t being driven by govt wanting a specific result, just a workable low-cost regulatory regime.
@jpwarren There was an AGD rep there, and discussions will feed back into the process.
@jpwarren Lol! Well, it wasn’t a matter of sides. This was a@iappANZNZ seminar discussing the draft Bill and identifying issues etc.
@jpwarren Thanks. The idea may well survive, ’cos it was an easy fix to an annoying problem, and there was much nodding from the lawyers.
@BXGD *Blinks*
@BXGD Yep, I realised moments after I tweeted. I couldn’t be arsed tho.
@BXGD Oh hang on, I know the one you mean. I’m not making these, tho, I’m just stealing them.

@BXGD This one? pic.twitter.com/jBAA5GbeIZ
@CosmicRami It’s so new the NICTA teams and the CSIRO teams are all still going “Ooh! You’ve been doing that! Let’s talk!”
@jpwarren I’m happy to say, too, that I may have influenced things by proposing a legislative fix to something that came up in discussions.
@SnarkyPlatypus I’m not sure. I can’t really say much more. Chatham House Rule, etc.
@bengrubb I lol’d.
At that seminar earlier, one lawyer said a key risk of data breaches was “phone calls fro@bengrubbbb asking questionsâ€. [Smirks]
Me at @zdnetaustralia earlier: “How Australia can cash in on the cyber boom†https://t.co/agHnVcxVmx #cyber #boom #cyberboom
@DanielOCnr “Digging†is too strong a word. A simple search is all you need.
@iain_chalmers @gcluley Despite my apparent bravado, I’ve decided as a matter of policy to be a bit careful with thermonuclear devices.

Well this took longer than I expected… pic.twitter.com/36vWluxd8c
@jonoabroad I have at least another week’s worth in the queue, and I know searches will turn up more.
@liquidparanoia I wasn’t at that event, and I haven’t watched the videos yet. But yes. Obviously.
The entire UTS Internet of Things (IoT) Data Security Forum from the other week (8 videos) is now online. everythingiot.com.au/#!videos/hk8nh
“Trident nuclear system to be updated to protect against hacking attacksâ€, writes @gcluley https://t.co/KacSTeqqDl Good thinking.

Tony Ate… at Eight #32: Tony had to don disposable overalls after the forensics. (Photo: Gregg Porteous/News Corppic.twitter.com/K4qi4DXRmeme
“Tony Ate… at Eight†is a tribute to Abbott’s love of things in his mouth. 0800 AEDT, repeated 2000 AEDT, until we get the lab results.
@jenny_sinclair Yep that was me. :) If you want more, most of my radio and TV spots and all my podcasts are on my website.
And… the radio spot is done! That was fun.
So yeah, I’ll be o@774melbournene after this song, which you’re listening toabc.net.au/melbourneLhE6 or via ABC apps or maybe… the radio.
I’ll be talking about Apple vs FBI and the flying selfie drone in ABC @774melbourne after 1900 AEDT. Listening is at abc.net.au/melbourne
@frankfil I did have to type it in as “Frank fill a pony” though.
@jpwarren I know. I just said that ‘cos I wanted to participate rather than tweet.
En route to ABC Ultimo.

There’s a lot to like about seminars at high-end law firms. instagram.com/p/BDm6LMwCFjc/
Here’s the Attorney-General’s Dept background on what we’re discussing. https://t.co/3jfL0bEBsn

We’ll be starting soon. No tweets, it’s Chatham House Rule. I’m “just” learning today. pic.twitter.com/TJvT6gj7BZ
I never felt comfortable with an axolotl living inside my phone. They’re creepy. https://t.co/AMVtgquBNk
This room at a law firm where we will be discussing the law seems to be filling up with lawyers.
Lulwut? https://t.co/HhgDAVWIlP

A wider view from level 37. pic.twitter.com/iol3HzgBcI

St Andrew’s Cathedral from level 37. instagram.com/p/BDmr2DWCFjT/

Nicely played. instagram.com/p/BDmp0S2CFgs/
@reselsnark @riskybusiness @dobes Cyberprincess!
Soon I’ll be at @iappANZ’s seminar on proposed data breach notification laws. https://t.co/3OGCPvK751 Chatham House Rule, tho, so no tweets.
@dobes That’s a shame@riskybusinessss showed so much promise.

Just in case you missed the ROAM-e Flying Selfies drone announced earlierâ€flyingselfies.comQpic.twitter.com/IqXf3AL90v0v
Me at @zdnetaustralia: “How Australia can cash in on the cyber boom†https://t.co/agHnVcxVmx #muchcyber #veryboom #wow
@riskybusiness @dobes You seem to be cyberannoyed… is there any cyberhelp I can offer? (Yes, this is the correct process.)
Bahn mi thit in progress.
Detrammed.

davpope I ‘live’ in the ACT, but for tax purposes ‘reside’ in Sth Australia’s Special Economic Zone goo.gl/oc0BNQ pic.twitter.com/KMmZfz2OAN
Entrammed.
DPRK_News Respected US National Inquirer newspaper reports Hillary Clinton to be stricken by “brain worms,” casting presidential succession in doubt.
RT @coleseadubs: 1. A robot may not injure humans
2. A robot must obey orders given to it by humans
3. A robot must be willing to relocate…
Australia really does need to up its mental health funding. https://t.co/DO7xN8KYVn
Thu plan: Write for @zdnetaustralia (done); 1530 @iappANZ briefing, Sydney CBD; 1900 @774melbourne, from ABC Ultimo; quiet night.
GonzoHacker I asked him how he could vote for someone who would deny his rights. He said “I’m a white man first, a faggot second”
GonzoHacker He’s trying to start a Gays for Trump group. So far it’s just him and his BF I don’t think either of them are registered to vote
GonzoHacker I have a friend who’s the gayest Republican I know in the sense that he only has sex with and/or votes for white men
RT @SofieHagen: Who wants to come with me and get this tweet tattooed on their bodies? https://t.co/6KHu9Td57l
@drearyclocks @zdnetaustralia Oh, it has a LOT of cybers, including two new ones. Expect some shouting from @dobes any moment now.
RT @mathewi: This should come with a trigger warning for old newspaper reporters https://t.co/lFhY6YUxvE
Story filed for @zdnetaustralia. It contains a drone, a boom, and rather a lot of cybers.
@purserj Extra long screws, eh?
iTunes is a bit shit, really.
RT @leslienassar: LOL, @SlackHQ boss calls cappuccino a flat white and Australia loses its mind. Lodge a ticket, nerds. https://t.co/vLE2zF 
The excitement never ends here in Australia. https://t.co/erlhbKd7cY
@juhasaarinen This is true. Also, the British Prime Minister. Pigs are popular with Prime Ministers. Oink.
MrDenmore Have I got this right? Broadening the GST was judged as too hard so they’re going to remake federalism instead?
Pigs are yummy and excellent.
Australian pork! https://t.co/gpSMWWtxhf
In which @mpesce demands to be made President for Life or he’ll unleash the death robots. https://t.co/S0glPd4Nnn
RT @therevmountain: Interesting that Turnbull often says, “you could make a powerful case that [x]†without, y’know, making the case https:…

josephfcox Related, here is the DoJ’s argument for keeping their Tor Browser exploit under wraps. Compelling. pic.twitter.com/Ni17XVJiBg
@jeamland That’s just one of several questions I have at this point.

For reasons which are not entirely clear, this photo of Dave Hughes just turned up. pic.twitter.com/xZBU22UHw0
RT @jayrosen_nyu: Ultimate reason for this: forms created for ease-of-production, not ease-of-use. https://t.co/mtfZQwWoVM
ASX Announcement! #godhelpus #bringontheasteroid #noimeanit #rightnow https://t.co/C1pQQcFLUv
ThuyOng @marcfennell it is!!! there is a little riot.
marcfennell If you are near Ultimo in Sydney the ABC shop there is closing down today. I’m told everything is $2
RT @rpy: lmao what https://t.co/xbvzNtpLHd
RT @jeamland: “You see,†said Turnbull, “What I really want is to be Opposition Leader again.â€
@dobes Everything is perfect at Apple. The Van will be arriving to collect you shortly.
Worst. Euphemism. Ever. https://t.co/z4ot6LwFw5
Oops. I still have “apple†and “fbi†muted. Hang on.
These things as a matter of personal choice. https://t.co/zCkVGzTEKk
RT @davpope: Sorry, Kermit https://t.co/uOX54O6oiE
<my Great Barrier Bleaching cartoon | gallery https://t.co/0163VajLU3&… https://t.co/l2K…
I HAVE PANTS ON NOW.
@dobes Relative to…?

But did it though? pic.twitter.com/GHYIYKEkpg
RT @GreenJ: fuck off, both of you. https://t.co/CUVp70WgbR
@jpwarren Oh I’ve got dozens of them.
@jpwarren Not recently, though I did do something disturbing with a credit union’s data transfers once.
@Thongdam07 @Top_level_Ted Hmmm? What do you want to know?
If only there were some sort of machine to help ensure that fees were calculated properly… https://t.co/yc3GTk5wck
@oberonsghost There is much to be said for his recommendation, but soju also works.
It’ll be a opposites-attract kind of thing, but as a result the sex will be awesome. https://t.co/3NTc1FuHcM
Thu plan, draft: Write for @zdnetaustralia (very soon); 1600 @iappANZ briefing, Sydney CBD (TBC); 1900 @774melbourne, from ABC Ultimo.
Don’t worry about tax, Daddy will fix it. Trust Daddy. “You trust me, don’t you?â€
All this proposed table-flipping of income tax is a glorious distraction from the general economic uselessness of Daddy Government, no?
Speling, S. https://t.co/vXM0DWbUZ3
@oberonsghost I eated the octopus.
@ataraxite Correct.
@ataraxite No box, no Schrödinger.
RT @AbstractCode: Counterpoint: F-35 https://t.co/TjArqMoCX1
“Tony Ate… at Eight†is a tribute to Abbott’s love of things in his mouth. 0800 AEDT, repeated 2000 AEDT, until we get the lab results.

Tony Ate… at Eight #32: Tony had to don disposable overalls after the forensics. (Photo: Gregg Porteous/News Corppic.twitter.com/ZRpkE3EGn3n3
RT @DavidParis: Turnbull’s facade of smug superiority that crumbles under the slightest scrutiny is never not hilarious.
I NO LONGER HAVE AN OCTOPUS. https://t.co/d5Jc8SYI9o
How many hens can you fit into an Olympic swimming pool? Or a London bus? https://t.co/qNPYqX0Oxk
RT @michaelmeloni: Finally a local council that is really connecting: https://t.co/3aPy0qHs4d /attn: @stilgherrian https://t.co/uKuMIxL3Nn
Given what Daddy Malcolm seems to be saying today, let me just retweet this screen of some CSIRO research. https://t.co/4jPI5TzJ8c
@jeamland Oh FFS.
@jeamland Please don’t get me anything with such shit typography.
Well, what an interesting start to the day.
RT @joshgnosis: 😧 https://t.co/PYSe3ae7d7

AwardsDarwin Don’t forget safety is paramount. pic.twitter.com/DoZHIH6RUJ
RT @BlogsofWar: I remember when they said that about al-Qaeda. https://t.co/3lyduj7vPn
sosadtoday everyone is doing the best they can, which kind of makes it worse
Thursday. There is big smile in the room, but it’s not yours. Thursday.
Geraldine. https://t.co/7voPs6RwNs
I HAVE AN OCTOPUS.
Soju. #soju
OH, while I’m taking drink orders: “But if I have a gin and tonic I’ll get naughty. [Pause] I’ll have a gin and tonic.”
One bar tab runs out, another opens. #thiswillendwell

Tony Ate… at Eight #31: Tony wishes this baby was puréed so he could lick it like an ice-cream. (Photo: News Corpic.twitter.com/bXfphJwkVdkVd
“Tony Ate… at Eight†is a tribute to Abbott’s love of things in his mouth. 0800 AEDT, repeated 2000 AEDT, until we can bear it no longer.

Speech! pic.twitter.com/soSVrYvorg

A toast to @boydpr. We’ll miss you, young lady. pic.twitter.com/ht7GVYCvZB

PR Skirts. pic.twitter.com/IjEc1qdpaZ

Approaching the Sydney CBD. instagram.com/p/BDkeY5aCFr7/
Heading to @boydpr’s retirement drinks, which will not be dangerous whatsoever.
Len Rust and I are helping*.

crikey_news Today’s @deptofaustralia . Four Kings? Never Have I Ever? pic.twitter.com/o7QR3zgW4x
OH: “I used to sail at Pittwater but these days the dickhead ratio is too high.”
Very disruption. Much nimble. Wow. https://t.co/CKYEm6uhJD
We also just saw this CSIRO robot, Weaver. https://t.co/iAVKkXMolg #d61-live
Here’s more on CSIRO’s “Legged Robotsâ€. Enjoy. https://t.co/pGF1wLo7JU #d61+live https://t.co/JUQWx66rin
@purserj There’s been some advances in important-object detection, plus some really innovative stuff soon (maybe, it’s a PhD project).
@purserj The resolution of the human implants has yet to be finalised. I’ve got that as a question on notice. Will find out soon.
I think @ashabeeeee has fallen in love with a robot called Zee. #d61+live
Cool, the “bionic eye†project should be going to human trials this year. Final agreements to be done fir#d61#d61+live
@ashabeeeee So, you know Data61 is kind of world leader in surveillance systems? You go and steal it.
All of this is true. It happened at the dumpling bar but THEY HAVE RUN OUT OF DUMPLINGS. #eatenbyscientists https://t.co/WuFRGKEme5
Thank you to the guy who just said “I’m a big fan, can I buy you a bottle of wine?†and handed me money. I looked you up, I will stalk you.
@dobes @leopinion Is there? Did I write one? I think I stole one from someone. Quite possibly from @RealDMitchell.
@PointZeroOne It’s too small to ride. :(
@ashabeeeee This guy can also fold his legs back and turn into a neat rectangular package to fit in his flight case.
@ashabeeeee Far back end of the booths. There’s a couple other robots, and a drone helicopter.

It’s not, you know. #d61+live pic.twitter.com/hckJzHjTUc

We’re screwed… #d61+live pic.twitter.com/zqxRWRam8V
@ShaneBryan_Aus Some are. UNSW is currently the best, at least that’s the consensus I’m getting.
DUMPLING TIME. #d61+live
Turner points me to the behavioural work that Data61 is gdoing #d61+live
Q (me): If humans are the weakest link, what are we doing to help those humans not be so weak? #d61+live
Davies: They need to learn real-world attacks, and how to chain them, not just theory, not just defence. #d61_live
Davies: A lot more work with students really using what they’re learning. War games. Real attacks, not theoretical attacks#d6161+live
Q: What should universities be doing differently for cybersecurity education? #d61+live
Turner reminds us that security needs to be driven from the company boardroom. #d61+live
Note that by “Davies†I mean Craig Davies, and by “Craig†I mean Jackie#d61ig. #d61+live
Davies: We need to continually revise our threat models. Yes, models plural. #d61+live
Craig: Once we know what those problems are, we can pull out the critical questions from that. #d61+live
Craig: The first thing to do is know what the question is. What are your critical missions? What are the risks? Address those. #d61+live
Q: Before we head into fancy new technology, what work are we doing to simplify what we’re already doing? #d61+live
Davies: Machine learning is an area we’re “super interested in†at Atlas#d61. #d61+live
Davies: The SME business sector is ripe for being breached and needs innovative ideas. #d61+live
Davies: Compared with vendors at RSA Conf etc, at events in AU like this one he seems much better ideas. #d61+live
Turner: We need to get a critical mass of researchers to attract the investment. #d61+live
Turner: Examples of that are proven and resilient system, and the nexus between people and security. #d61+live
Turner: AU needs to concentrate on research areas where there’s a market gap or where AU has the lead#d6161+live
Hale: Australia is #5 in the world for patents for cybersecurity stuff. #d61+live
There’s a discussion now about getting women into the cybers. Reinforcing messages that have been covered in news before#d6161+live
Connick: The PM is personally enthusiastic about cyber and STEM etc. #d61+live
@AshKyd I know. I complained about it earlier. It doesn’t even pass lexical tokenisation. I hate it hate it hate it.
Davies is talking to Australianuniversities re STEM graduates, “but I need them yesterdayâ#d61#d61+live
Last year Atlassian hired 80 graduates [in AU?], 3 of which went to cybersecurity. #d61+live
Atlassian set up its cybersecurity centre in Austin TX, but is keen to invest here in Australia. #d61+live
Davies reinforces the oft-repeared message that we’re really short of infosec talent#d6161+live
Craig: Sees DSTG’s role, from the Defence White Paper, a collaboration with other organisations as part of the “jigsaw†of R&a#d61. #d61+live

I think Jackie Craig has heard Connick’s narrative before. #d61+live pic.twitter.com/AqQotdfgKn
Connick: The cybersecurity review will be released “shortlyâ€. [I assume as a pre-election announceabl#d61#d61+live

OK, this is the actual cyberpanel. #d61+live pic.twitter.com/iT0GF1oD7K
Oh, That panel list may be wrong. Stand by. #d61+live
We’ve got 1000+ people here today, we’ve just been to#d61#d61+live

Next up, this cyberpanel. #d61+_live pic.twitter.com/0lVBAPchgc

And… blockchain makes an appearance. #d61+live pic.twitter.com/AHaUcSTeAt
Looking at big patterns in data can predict people’s illnesses before they’re necessarily aware themselv#d61#d61+live
Pentland explains how mapping “foraging behaviour†of people’s spending to predict financial well-b#d61. #d61+live
@SilvesterSJ I’m not enjoying it either. But now I refuse to change.
Next up: Prof Alex “Sandy” Pentland, research director at MIT Media Lab, “Connection Science and Internet Trus#d6161+live
We seem to be running about 20 minutes behind schedule. https://t.co/1iy2uNjCoQ #d61+live

“Nineteen Eighty-Four” redux. #d61+live pic.twitter.com/bfhD8YTJMt

I assume this is a prediction about COAG . #d61+live pic.twitter.com/u7SSwVjiB3

From tweets to situational awareness. #d61+live pic.twitter.com/XbuNIhQKMI
@jeamland They’re old-school kernel hackers. Do they even know what programming languages are?
“Security is no excuse for poor performance. We don’t permit that around here.” #d61+live
Learning about timing analysis attacks to extract encryption keys from memory caches, and defending against them. #d61+live