The 9pm AUKUS and the Echidna with Sam Roggeveen

A middle-aged white bloke wears a black jacket and t-shirt and, with arms folded, looks straight into the camera. An inset shows a book cover reading: “The Echidna Strategy: Australia’s Search for Power and Peace by Sam Roggeveen”. And it has a picture of an echidna.
Sam Roggeveen (Photo: Petri Kurkaa). Inset: The cover of The Echidna Strategy. (Image: Black Inc Books)

Any moment now, Donald Trump might cancel AUKUS, the massive defence agreement which among other things would see Australia buying eight nuclear-powered submarines. AUKUS has become the big thing in Australia’s defence procurement, but do we need it? Sam Roggeveen thinks not, and he’s our guest today.

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The 9pm Underwater Doomsday Conversation with H I Sutton

Defence analyst H I Sutton and one of his submarine illustrations. (Photo: Supplied)

Finally, it’s time to talk about submarines. The spring series of The 9pm Edict continues with a conversation about what submarines in the 21st century can and can’t do with defence analyst and illustrator H I Sutton of Covert Shores.

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