Stilgherrian (@stilgherrian)

Wentworth Falls NSW AU

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September 13th, 2011

@scottlarocca True, Xenophon had named the day he’d name the name, had be not?

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@scottlarocca I wonder how much ABC’s decision to name was influenced by Fairfax (and others?) going first.

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@scottlarocca The joy and the terror of Twtter conversations. People see a unique view of a scattergun of commentary. Opposite of broadcast.

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@benmelour Oh dear, sorry to hear that. In that case, please use any term you like! Hope you’re better soon.

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@scottlarocca Not sure that you saw the rather fine resource, The News Manual? We linked earlier. arseh.at/l02

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Plus I don’t normally write or talk about such cases, so to pick one is automatically unfair emphasis by me, I’d say. /cc @KeithConlon

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Agreed, @KeithConlon, it’s not just protection but fairness too. I’m not naming (yet) ‘cos I’m not across the story, too easy to be unfair.

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The mention of “newspapers” in that doc is misleading, I’d say, @scottlarocca. The Act just refers to “reports”. arseh.at/l0a

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@benmelour Erm, Wikipedia has hardly been “hacked”. Anyone can just press the “edit” button.

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@KeithConlon You’re not feeling sufficiently protected to name the name yourself? We’ve had a discussion going over in my half. I’d have.

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@wolfcat I’m guessing whoever was on shift at ABC wasn’t brave enough to name. SMH was. I think I’d have gone for it, I know how to word it.

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Sorry, Dow settled the damages. High Court decision 7-0 that Guttnick had the right to sue at primary residence and place he was best known.

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Presumably Mr X’s reputation mostly exists here in Australia too, @arionian, and defamation is all about damage to reputation.

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Ah, and in Dow Jones & Co Inc v Gutnick they settled out of court anyway. Dow caved in by $580,000 in fees and damagarseh.at/l07fWfg

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Yes yes, @arionian, but if I were Mr X (in Australia) and with you in Australia, Australia’s tough defamation laws would be the way to go.

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Dow Jones v Joseph Gutnick is it, @mcbridematt, thank you. I wasn’t particularly close there, was I? Sleeping pills starting to work.

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You’re publishing TO Australia, @arionian. I believe we have case law on this, Goldman or Gottman or something? Someone help me out…

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@franksting Troll. I know you know we’ve never been “entitled to say whatever we like”, here or anywhere else.

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I should stress, IANAL and am no expert in privilege law. I’m just saying what I’d do if I were the producer today, based on my experiences.

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I guess armchair journos on Twitter imagine they know privilege like amateurs with laser printers in 1988 imagined they knew typography.

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TBH, @wolfcat, I don’t see this instance as particularly different from so many that have gone before. Privilege stuff’s a well-worn path.

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But, the tweet I saw just now that said “Xenophon said X is a [Criminal Category Y]” is not protected, I’d suggest. Not a fair paraphrase.

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Having read (only) the current ABC story, as a producer I’d be comfortable with stating the name, but I’d probably run it past legal first.

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Oh I see the story now. And I see some experimental tests of the limits of privilege are already taking place via Twitter.

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A billboard could fail the “fair” test, @wordsonaplatfrm, construed as malice if you don’t normally billboard Senate comments. IANAL.

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BTW I have zero knowledge of the specific matter we’re talking about here. I’m discussing parliamentary privilege in general.

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From The News Manual, “Chapter 67: Privilege” arseh.at/l02 /cc @ma_ttie @wolfcat @wordsonaplatfrm @andrew_hedge @therevmountain

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Absolutely, @ma_ttie. “In the Senate tonight Senator Xenophon named the man as X” is acceptable. /cc @wolfcat

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The “platform” is irrelevant, @wolfcat. It’s about making it clear that you’re describing what Xenophon said, no more.

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Normal parliamentary privilege applies, @wolfcat. People may quote (or fairly paraphrase) what Xenophon said in the Senate.

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OH: “Me and her? On a morality standard, I want to say ‘No’, because she’s immoral and she’s a wog.” On a morality standard, eh?

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One of my maths teachers was an engineer on the English Electric Lightning arseh.at/kzw taught me how to do / debunk “estimates”.

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Thank you, @NewtonMark @jodiem, dodgy research gets me cranky. As you noticed. Pretty website or not. /cc @jeamland

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My shoulder is somewhat less out of line, so now the lack of sleep is finally catching up with me. Interaction will be intermittent.

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Me at CSO: “Infosec’s mega marketing misalignment mishap”, a small rant. arseh.at/94y

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CSO story filed. I’m off to have my shoulder repaired. Baxoon.

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Every time a brand name trends on Twitter, a kitten kills itself in shame. Hello, Kitty.

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So, I’m discussing how I should shape the tone of a story, and this is what I’m told… youtu.be/dib2-HBsF08

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@engochick Well, so many businesses are still catching on to the idea that faxes can be digital objects and… oh… I’d better stop there.

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@engochick I’d heard something like ATO’s SBR existed, but having read the explanation I completely misunderstood the focus, how it worked.

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A shower and a coffee helps immensely. As does the codeine finally doing its trick. I shall now start writing a cranky thing.

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@darrenpauli Oh. Well, to be honest I think a collection of my OH tweets is more likely to become a book. Still…

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Trialling ideas for a new etiquette book.

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If people are reading “mX” on the train, you’re allowed to spit on them.

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Pho + codeine = something. And now I catch a train to a new SEKRIT hideyhole. I hope it’s acceptable.

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@wordsonaplatfrm Yes, that is precisely my point. But in this case it most definitely has not.

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Tue plan, belated: Get codeine; organise accommodation; write for CSO; 1600 repair shoulder; collapse. All subject to random change.

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Dear IT PR people, something isn’t “the new standard” unless it’s, you know, a STANDARD. It’s not a synonym for “pretty good”. Grrr!

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@franksting Yeah. China. Central Europe. [nods]

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Thanks, @adm_76 @sylmobile, it’s good to be back. I’ll be able to find some codeine for this shoulder. And sleep.

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Have you also noticed, @franksting, how it sounds much, much scarier in a Russian or Central European accent?

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RT @franksting: “You must change your enterprise passwords and make them complicated or the whole world will end” sort of stuff. [Yes that.]

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@franksting @mpesce What have I done now? I just talk to these guys and they say stuff.

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Right. I am in Australia and nearly back in communication with the world, no thanks to and that awful unwashed feeling.

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