Stilgherrian (@stilgherrian)

Wentworth Falls NSW AU

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November 17th, 2014

This is bullshit. I covered a privacy conference when I could have been going the Merkel.

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I was in the same goddam building as that event.

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So why didn’t you arseholes tell me that Angela Merkel did the Lowy address today? You are useless.

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OH: “At best, they’re harmless idiots.”

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Oh dear, it’s happening again.

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Starting to feel like I’ve been up since 0430. Because I have been.

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And now the @iappANZ people are doing the wrap. It’s been an excellent day.

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Concluding quote from Sir Tim Berners-Lee. instagram.com/p/vfa-RZCFnZ/

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Personal information management could generate 1.2% of UK GDP. instagram.com/p/vfaULFCFlY/

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Deadman: Privay-by-design becomes a core competency for a data-centric business.

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Deadman says that overall this disruptive change will be good for privacy.

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A few of the new privacy-oriented personal data startups. instagram.com/p/vfZJ9viFhT/

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Steve_Lockstep .@SJ_Deadman: “consumers now are choosing to hide” < MyPOV: only to a limited extent. Going underground is limited privacy gambit.

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@ChazFH A privacy officer is addressing a privacy conference about privacy, so oddly enough he spoke about that.

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Deadman: The way that companies obtain user consent to collect personal data is broken.

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Steve_Lockstep .@SJ_Deadman ‘Data is a new asset class (WEF)’; ‘value in is not in the things but the data’ pic.twitter.com/e9ZBvpmdSD

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Deadman says data protection ideas began in mainframe days, but today we add all controllers of personal data.

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RealNickHodge Shetland Bronies

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Nice to see @WIRED is completely* up to date with current trends. instagram.com/p/vfWlBpCFpl/

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Steve_Lockstep .@SJ_Deadman wins slide of the day. pic.twitter.com/mD5SXb2ji8

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Me at @zdnetaustralia: “Fix your security, don’t cover up breaches: Privacy commissioner” zdnet.com/fix-your-secur…

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Last item: Why new business models will shake up the privacy landscape. Stephen Deadman, group privacy officer, Vodafone UK.

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There have been examples, but not many.

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Q from floor on what international cooperations have achieved so far. Consensus seems to be “early days yet”.

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Steve_Lockstep Allan Chiang: Major furore over HK Octopus transit smartcard operator selling Personal Data. Govt extended investigation to banks

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Allan Chiang, HK’s Privacy Commissioner for Personal Data, live via Skype. instagram.com/p/vfUbyRiFh8/

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Miyashita: The right to be forgotten is a live issue in JP right now. One court has supported it, another not.

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Miyashita: The word “accountability” is very Anglo-Saxon, difficult to translate into Japanese. [Curious, that.]

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SG surveyed organisations, 65% sad they were ‘ready to comply’, “whatever that means”.

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Alfred: SG is at the very beginning of the process, so a lot of their work is answering questions about how the new law works.

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BernardKeane Wow - @bengrubb reveals Cabinet to consider vast internet censorship regime bit.ly/1qaMB8T

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Evans: You need to know what information you hold. It sounds trite, but many organisations don’t know what they have.

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Evans: If you don’t have leadership and accountability at the top table then it’s going to be very difficult to succeed.

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Pilgrim: It’s all too easy to blame someone down the chain when things go wrong, but were they supported with proper process.

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Pilgrim: The key accountability issue is when/how privacy issues are dealt with at the board level.

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Pilgrim is pointing to APP1 as the “bedrock” of the accountability process, admits he’s repeating this idea a lot.

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Pilgrim: The approach they’re taking in HK is impressive.

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Now @MalcomC will ask everyone how accountability expectations have actually changed in the region.

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Steve_Lockstep MyPOV: probabilistic reality of anonymisation points to common ground between & . Both are imperfect.

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In other words, Chiang is saying they’ve been working on getting privacy to be considered from the top of the organisation.

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Chiang was disturbed by the HK situation where privacy was handled as a legal-liability issue, not as corprorate governance.

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Chiang says that the key issue in HK now is accountability. Legal compliance is not enough.

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Can we really de-identify data, muses @MalcomC.

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JP will have a privacy bill coming in next year, Miyashita thanks AU for generous help with drafting their law.

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Miyashita: “There is always the risk of data re-identification”, so that’s an issue for JP after some big breaches.

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Steve_Lockstep Prof Hiroshi Miyashita: “info flow is global but privacy is local” yet individualism has not been a Japanese characteristic.

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[Yes, we all need a reminder that privacy is a social construct, and cultures differ.]

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Dr Hiroshi Miyashita, Law Professor, Chio Uni, Japan, says that privacy has not been such a strong concept in JP cultural.

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It’s sounding like SG is having to deal with awareness of data privacy as a concept, the very start of it.

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[It’s comments like these that make me realise how far ahead Australia is in data protection and privacy.]

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Mr David Alfred, Chief Counsel, Personal Data Protection Commission, Singapore, says their data protection law is very new.

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Zainel says MY’s issue is introducing controls in the right order so they can actually be enforced.

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Zainel says data privacy vital for property, especially their tourism industry.

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Zainel says MY has just had first anniversary of enforcement. They celebrated by adding more tasks to their workload.

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Chiang on shortly. Dr Zainel Abidin Sait, Deputy Director General, Personal Data Protection, Malaysia on now.

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Allan Chiang, Privacy Commissioner for Personal Data, Hong Kong, is beaming in via Skype from HK.

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NZ is looking at the issue of data reidentification, and controls thereupon.

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Evans: The question is how to unlock the value of the data while still protecting privacy.

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Evans: The other big issue for her is the data analysis environment, whether that’s big data or internet of things.

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Katrine Evans, Asst Comm, Office of the Privacy Commissioner, NZ: Mandatory data breach notification is their big thing.

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Timothy Pilgrim, Aust Privacy Commissioner, says the big issue for the nbear future is accountability. [Another hint from him?]

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Final panel discussion is “thought leadership” in the Asia-Pacific region with a huge panel of luminaries. Chair is @MalcomC.

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Resuming tweetage from the final sessions of the @iappANZ summit. iappanz.org/IAPP/Events/Su… Mute to avoid.

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Australia’s “Privacy regulatory action policy” launched today. oaic.gov.au/about-us/corpo… Press release at oaic.gov.au/news-and-event…

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I’ve taken a break from tweeting the @iappANZ summit to deal with some other issues, but will be resuming after lunch.

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figgled I love gender-specific gift suggestions. I sure hope I get tea towels and rom com DVDs for Christmas!!! I’ll put them in my vagina

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@MsLods Ah yes, Trkulja. I am familiar with the cases.

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Ackland points to reputation.com, which tries to manage search engine results.

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Bartlett: Google is effectively republishing information.

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Q from @Steve_Lockstep: We’re not talking about some statutory record with Google, it’s the by-product of an advertising business.

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MsLods .@stilgherrian that’s why Trkulja sued Google (US) *&* Google Au and (controversially) was successful in defo claim: smh.com.au/technology/tec…

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Vaile: “There’s not some magical law out there in cyberspace, it’s the law of some specific country.” [Ah, the jurisdiction issue!]

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Vaile says that the right to be forgotten, like the idea of a statutory tort of privacy, media seems to think it’s all about them.

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@larry_irving You’re preaching to the choir, sir. About 2/3 of my writing is about infosec, privacy and the cybers.

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Ackland interjects: “It’s a bit like the Catholic church in relation to…” [We all know where he was going there.NZ

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Bartlett: There have been cases in Australia where Google has been sued, failed: Google AU is advertising only, not search engine.

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Steve_Lockstep Ackland goes to “what is truth?” < MyPOV: this is crucial! Google’s search algorithms *manufacture* “truth”.

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Ackland: “At the heart of this is an understanding of what is Truth.” The González info was truth, but only a partial truth.

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@larry_irving My pleasure. I certainly did enjoy your presentation.

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Bartlett: “This [EU] provision is a significant attack on the freedom of the internet.”

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Bartlett cites several cases, which I didn’t catch, but the principle is that courts shouldn’t make orders it can’t enforce.

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Bartlett: This information is all true, that they’re asking to be taken down. They’re trying to rewrite history.

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Bartlett: “Can I say that I don’t agree with anything that David [Vaile] said. With respect.” [Audience laughs.]

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Vaile says that in EU the right to privacy doesn’t “trump” free speech, it “balances” it.

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Vaile says this is a storm in a teacup in AU, we have “spent convictions legislation”.

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Ackland discusses the Marcus Einfeld case and what counts as useful to the media context. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Ei…

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vjds Free speech versus privacy - who trumps who? In US, it’s free speech, in EU it’s privacy. AU perspectives?

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Steve_Lockstep Bartlett: perhaps require a note at top of a search result stating result of a law case but “don’t rewrite history”

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Ackland: A “curious” decision when the whole world runs on search, and you can search elsewhere.

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Ackland: It’s a “peculiarly European decision”, “Americans are appalled”.

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Bartlett says González’ information was relevant, would be of interest. Thinks it’s wrong to delete a “relevant part of history”.

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Related: Recent ABC Law Report story on “The right to be forgotten” abc.net.au/radionational/…

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Flahvin explains the background to right to be forgotten, Google Spain v AEPD and Mario Costeja González. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Sp…

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Panel is @JustinianNews; David Vaile, UNSW; Peter Bartlett, Minter Ellison; chair Anne Flahvin, Baker & McKenzie.

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Next panel is the media panel: “Delete: The right to be forgotten”

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@teirdes Ah yes, I’m familiar with the tech boosterism. I am immune.

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OH: “I just found myself at a table full of graduate lawyers. It’s an unmistakable stench that just doesn’t wash away.”

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Irving ends his keynote early. Coffee break.

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Irving: “The Uber/Google model is the right thing to do”, i.e. push the boundaries of innovation, and make regulation catch up.

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Irving says the AU and NZ privacy commissioners have been bridging the differences in the US-EU privacy “shooting war”.

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Irving on this rapid pace of change: “With so much happening, we’re flying without a net.”

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RT @Steve_Lockstep: Salesperson flogging internet connectivity of a fridge to @larry_irving probably picked the wrong prospect. [Y]

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Irving: “There is good news in America. We are beginning to think about these things.” But it’s all still just about apps now.

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Irving thinks the oft-cited figure of 50 billion connected devices by 2020 is “a bit low”.

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Irving on all this data gathering: “I’m not saying ‘Stop it.’ I’m saying ‘Let’s have a conversation about it.’”

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Related: “Would you let your employer track your fitness?” by @Anthony_Caruana. run-and-lift.com/balance/would-…

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Irving says 22 million wearables will be sold next year. 22M was the number of people on the internet. [Privacy scare redux?]

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Irving cites last week’s Pew report: “Public Perceptions of Privacy and Security in the Post-Snowden Era” pewinternet.org/2014/11/12/pub…

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Irving is running through his iBeacon and related technology track you to provide a personalised experience.

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Related: Snoopwall’s app Privacy Flashlight, which does NOT track you. snoopwall.com/privacyflashli…

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Related: @WIRED’s report, “The Hidden Privacy Threat of … Flashlight Apps?wired.com/2014/10/iphone…6nz

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Irving tells how the flashlight app on his smartphone was tracking him. [Most do. It’s why they’re free.]

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Irving: “We grossly underestimated how fast the [private data collecting] ecosystem would grow,” and same for the internet.

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Keynote: Larry Irving, architect of Clinton/Gore telco & internet policies. “Privacy in an era of mobility” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Irv…

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They don’t know the details, but Pilgrim says it’ll be business as usual There’s still a Privacy Act, it’ll still be enforced.

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Pilgrim is now commenting on the government’s decision to abolish the Office of the Australian Information Commissioner.

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Even with the Immigration breach removed, there was still 100% increase in privacy complaints year-on-year.

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OIAC is handing ~1600 individual complaints re Dept of Immigration breach. Overall, 183% inc in complaints year-on-year.

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Pilgrim points to the Dept of Immigration breach as an example of how breached data can go out of control.

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It sounds to me that Pilgrim will be coming down hard on websites that fail to implement their security properly.

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Pilgrim is stressing that security measures need to take the human risk factor into account, including the insider threat.

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It sounds like there’s quite a bit of privacy regulatory material appearing on the OAIC website later today.

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Privacy Commission is releasing exposure draft chapters of their Regulatory Action Policy today, including breach action policy.

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Over next 12 months, Privacy Commissioner will be reviewing websites that were identified for follow-up action.

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Pilgrim: Get APP1 right and you’re well on the way to having your privacy compliance sorted out.

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Pilgrim says that most websites they checked for Privacy Act compliance failed Australian Privacy Principal 1 (APP1).

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Pilgrim is emphasising that social media, smartphones, etc are part of our society now. Can’t expect people to exclude themselves.

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Pilgrim: “It’s just not realistic to say that someone should not use social media if they want to maintain their privacy.”

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Pilgrim cites an article, “The issue formerly known as privacy” by @smwat america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/…

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Pilgrim: In this internet age, “privacy is now embedded in, and fundamental to, everything we do.”

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Next up, Australia’s Privacy Commissioner, Timothy Pilgrim, “Privacy: the state of play”

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Kirby: “Well that is the shortest speech I have ever given in 44 years of public office.”

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Actually Kirby is really just saying hi and announcing the prizewinners. With much style.

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Kirby: “I am a bit of a fossil in the area of privacy protection, but I was there at the creation.”

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Kirby refers to us as “part of the global struggle to keep privacy alive”.

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Keynote speaker is “one of the most glamorous humans beings you could ever think of,” Michael Kirby.

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The @iappANZ summit “Privacy@Play” begins. @JustinianNews is MC. Mute to avoid. iappanz.org/IAPP/Events/Su…

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Approaching the Gates of Mordor, or something instagram.com/p/vedwAWiFu8/

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I’ll be tweeting from @iappANZ summit “Privacy@Play” today, starting around 0900 AEDT. Mute to avoid. iappanz.org/IAPP/Events/Su…

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QPSmedia They gave us Celine, Nickelback & Bieber but we’ll still help with their PM’s motorcade pic.twitter.com/7ZLSPF88TF

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ABMckinley This is a genuine ad from 1964 when WD40 was first released. How marketing PR has changed over the years. pic.twitter.com/gbWtcRMYEY

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@garthk @HowardBaldwin To 1607 if it’s about actions or feelings rather than speech or writing, 1613 for people and their dispositions.

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@bastardsheep They’re the ones. I see them from the train most times I pass. But they lurk well away from the buildings, yes.

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Look, logging in to the OED from a moving train so I can browbeat a friend with specific 17th-century citations is not pedantry, OK?

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@garthk @HowardBaldwin Or from 1689, ” A virulent pamphlet… wherein he foolishly reflected on King William.”

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@garthk @HowardBaldwin “He is greatly faulty in his virulent termes and charging the same upon my Lord Falkland.”

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@garthk @HowardBaldwin You may not have caught up with this usage yet. The OED says it’s only been used for speech and writing since 1631.

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@garthk @HowardBaldwin It’s called metaphor. OED glosses it thus: “violently bitter, spiteful, or malignant; full of acrimony or enmity”.

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Does anyone know of a good collection of recent images of robots? Current technology.

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I always smile when I see the kangaroos lazing around the campus of the Uni of Western Sydney. I should visit them one morning.

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“Woolly mammoth cloning war: Scientists divided over the ethics of attempting to revive extinct mammal” independent.co.uk/news/science/w…

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RT @vealmince: Is it cultural cringe that we need foreign journalists to tell us how shit we are? [Yes. Yes it is.]

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@evcricket I gather it has, but it’s not something that I’d count as “big news”. [Shrugs.] YMMV.

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@evcricket I am, yes. Tweets are running late and out of timetable order.

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Mon plan: 0636 train to Sydney; work en route; @iappANZ conference all day iappanz.org/IAPP/Events/Su…; 1918 return train; collapse.

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Happy anniversary Lunokhod (Луноход) 1, first robot explorer of the Moon, landed 17 Nov 1970. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunokhod_1 pic.twitter.com/H1p2HcOHE7

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Goodness me, @latimes’ Robyn Dixon wasn’t impressed with Australia’s G20 performance. arcamax.com/currentnews/ne…

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Mon plan, draft: 0636 train to Sydney; work en route; @iappANZ conference all day iappanz.org/IAPP/Events/Su…; 1918 return train; collapse.

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Monday. The specific details are secret, of course. They always are. Just work under the assumption that everything is dreadful. Monday.

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