#fom08 now streamed with audio at http://stilgherrian.com/… apparrently.
@Colgo You’re 100% right, the discussion was the same journalists vs bloggers crap that happens every goddam forum. #fom08
OK, the CEO panel is about to start… I may give up on the ustream feed since I can’t snarf the audio for some reason. #fom08
http://stilgherrian.com/… for #fom08 live feed.
“These railways look like they’ll catch on, must try to see how we can sell them more horseshoes.” #fom08
Oh last tweet should’ve been tagged #fom08
@rogerchristie Yeah it’s the same old defensiveness from “journalists”. Sigh.
We’re on break at #fom and I’ll try to get the audio working again so I can stream some video from the “Future of Journalism” breakout.
OK, will leave ustream link up. Will listen, absorb, reflect… #fom08
Wed plan: AM write something about #fom08 for Crikey.com.au; PM write client proposal(s); evening gym & dinner w@SnarkyPlatypusypus.
@JonoH I don’t think anyone sponsored cocktails last night, we were buying our own drinks. Bar only sold “schmiddies”, the arseholes. #fom08
Hi to the 20 new Twitterfollowers in last 24 hours. I don’t have time today to greet you all individually but will go thru backlog later. :)
Emerges. Thoughts spinning re the Future of Media and what I’ll write about it today… and whether Crikey will actually run it. #fom08
Anyway enough for me… the felines are complaining about… something… [exit]
@wolfcat [smirks] I do what I can to help…
@mpesce Oddly enough, no, you are NOT the complete centre of attention. And blogging DURING the morning sessions doesn’t count. #fom08
Never trust anyone who posts about a conference too early. It means they skipped the drinking sessions where the real truth emerges. #fom08
I’ve decided that all media is an illusion and them only realities are AC/DC and The Wiggles.
#fom08 drinks about to start 5.30pm at Firehouse Hotel, 86 Walker St, North Sydney.
@wolfcat I guess Twitterevangelism doesn’t take over a conference when they’ve BROUGHT OUT ENOUGH BEERS EARLY! fom08
@rossdawson It’s amusing to see @jedwhite and @trib doing Twitter 101 for a rapt table of folks… ;) #fom08
They need to give me more coffee and I think… no, just more coffee first and we’ll see what happens. #fom08
[Something about cheaply enabling penetration, and better drugs… I’m getting confused now.] #fom08
I’ve tuned out from what’s being said because it’s been a long day and the sense of deja vu is overwhelming. I want to kill somebody. #fom08
George Orwell: “If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stomping on a human face — forever.” [smirks] #fom08
Forever. #fom08
@j9j Maybe that’s the point: the Future of Media is to have the same debates argued over and over and over and over again… ;) #fom08
(Sounds like there was a bit of a repeat discussion in this session too re production values vs salience.) #fom08
So it’s teenagers with cameras ending stuff to grandparents, while time-poor folks in the middle consume less. #fom08
Consumption of new media is mostly about how much time people have available…? #fom08
Why are there so few Austn bloggers? Something cultural about not wanting to stick our heads out? #fom08
Terms is “participant” rather than “consumers”… they don’t have to be active… #fom08
Breakout 3:Social media n stuff (forget exact title) … #fom08
But that’s old media thinking: there is no audience any more, people can send each other items if importance to them. #fom08
Can get sidetracked by arguing about technology, when in the end the content, the storytelling, is what counts. #fom08
Another generational issue: many news orgs run by middle-aged or older ppl who haven’t made this change in their mindset. #fom08
It was also seen as a generational thing: group split in terms of whether they get news from MSM or not. #fom08
A from journos: Given uncertainty, people are worried about their jobs! #fom08
Q: Given all these new tools, why is their so much pessimism about their impact? #fom08
“Is journalism broken, and will new tools fix that or will it get more broken?” #fom08
Is it institutional bias ‘cos in Aust journalism is concentrated in a few large media outlets? Constrained by rules of org? #fom08
Are ppl working outside the mainstream now “doing journalism better”? #fom08
What is the differentiator? Journalism Code of Ethics? Has journalism fallen short of its own standards? #fom08
“We had a fairly robust continuation of the bloggers vs journalists debate.” #fom08
From “Future of Journalism” breakout… #fom08
Can also bundle with other things, e.g. sell satellite radio as part of cost of buying a new car. #fom08
Better micropayment models will allow greater flexibility of business models, especially mobile distribution. #fom08
Is the problem that there is no proper micropayment model? #fom08
For items like music, direct payments by consumer works. Will people pay for material if very relevant? #fom08
Move to “pay by result” for classifieds, for example, has plenty of scope. #fom08
Example: car dealerships moving from CPM advertising model to PPC to paying for car sales. #fom08
Business models need to make better use of the data they already have, mining for better targetting. #fom08
…but trad advertising model of targeting a broad audience (oxymoron!) is teh fail. #fom08
Business models: advertising as the main model for funding media has a long future ahead of it… #fom08
Breakout sessions from unconference now reporting back to main room… far fewer numbers than earlier tho. #fom08
I still don’t understand why these discussions end up being combative… #fom08