Stilgherrian (@stilgherrian)

In Sydney NSW AU until Mon

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July 15th, 2008

@Colgo You’re 100% right, the discussion was the same journalists vs bloggers crap that happens every goddam forum.

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OK, the CEO panel is about to start… I may give up on the ustream feed since I can’t snarf the audio for some reason.

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“These railways look like they’ll catch on, must try to see how we can sell them more horseshoes.”

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Oh last tweet should’ve been tagged

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@rogerchristie Yeah it’s the same old defensiveness from “journalists”. Sigh.

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We’re on break at and I’ll try to get the audio working again so I can stream some video from the “Future of Journalism” breakout.

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OK, will leave ustream link up. Will listen, absorb, reflect…

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Wed plan: AM write something about for Crikey.com.au; PM write client proposal(s); evening gym & dinner w@SnarkyPlatypusypus.

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@JonoH I don’t think anyone sponsored cocktails last night, we were buying our own drinks. Bar only sold “schmiddies”, the arseholes.

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Hi to the 20 new Twitterfollowers in last 24 hours. I don’t have time today to greet you all individually but will go thru backlog later. :)

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Emerges. Thoughts spinning re the Future of Media and what I’ll write about it today… and whether Crikey will actually run it.

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Anyway enough for me… the felines are complaining about… something… [exit]

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@wolfcat [smirks] I do what I can to help…

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@mpesce Oddly enough, no, you are NOT the complete centre of attention. And blogging DURING the morning sessions doesn’t count.

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Never trust anyone who posts about a conference too early. It means they skipped the drinking sessions where the real truth emerges.

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I’ve decided that all media is an illusion and them only realities are AC/DC and The Wiggles.

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drinks about to start 5.30pm at Firehouse Hotel, 86 Walker St, North Sydney.

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@wolfcat I guess Twitterevangelism doesn’t take over a conference when they’ve BROUGHT OUT ENOUGH BEERS EARLY! fom08

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@rossdawson It’s amusing to see @jedwhite and @trib doing Twitter 101 for a rapt table of folks… ;)

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They need to give me more coffee and I think… no, just more coffee first and we’ll see what happens.

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[Something about cheaply enabling penetration, and better drugs… I’m getting confused now.]

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I’ve tuned out from what’s being said because it’s been a long day and the sense of deja vu is overwhelming. I want to kill somebody.

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George Orwell: “If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stomping on a human face — forever.” [smirks]

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@j9j Maybe that’s the point: the Future of Media is to have the same debates argued over and over and over and over again… ;)

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(Sounds like there was a bit of a repeat discussion in this session too re production values vs salience.)

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So it’s teenagers with cameras ending stuff to grandparents, while time-poor folks in the middle consume less.

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Consumption of new media is mostly about how much time people have available…?

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Why are there so few Austn bloggers? Something cultural about not wanting to stick our heads out?

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Terms is “participant” rather than “consumers”… they don’t have to be active…

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Breakout 3:Social media n stuff (forget exact title) …

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But that’s old media thinking: there is no audience any more, people can send each other items if importance to them.

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Can get sidetracked by arguing about technology, when in the end the content, the storytelling, is what counts.

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Another generational issue: many news orgs run by middle-aged or older ppl who haven’t made this change in their mindset.

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It was also seen as a generational thing: group split in terms of whether they get news from MSM or not.

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A from journos: Given uncertainty, people are worried about their jobs!

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Q: Given all these new tools, why is their so much pessimism about their impact?

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“Is journalism broken, and will new tools fix that or will it get more broken?”

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Is it institutional bias ‘cos in Aust journalism is concentrated in a few large media outlets? Constrained by rules of org?

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Are ppl working outside the mainstream now “doing journalism better”?

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What is the differentiator? Journalism Code of Ethics? Has journalism fallen short of its own standards?

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“We had a fairly robust continuation of the bloggers vs journalists debate.”

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From “Future of Journalism” breakout…

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Can also bundle with other things, e.g. sell satellite radio as part of cost of buying a new car.

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Better micropayment models will allow greater flexibility of business models, especially mobile distribution.

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Is the problem that there is no proper micropayment model?

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For items like music, direct payments by consumer works. Will people pay for material if very relevant?

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Move to “pay by result” for classifieds, for example, has plenty of scope.

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Example: car dealerships moving from CPM advertising model to PPC to paying for car sales.

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Business models need to make better use of the data they already have, mining for better targetting.

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…but trad advertising model of targeting a broad audience (oxymoron!) is teh fail.

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Business models: advertising as the main model for funding media has a long future ahead of it…

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Breakout sessions from unconference now reporting back to main room… far fewer numbers than earlier tho.

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I still don’t understand why these discussions end up being combative…

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Sitting in with @trib and @ChrisSaad on “Future of Journalism” unconference session… continuing the same discussion.

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