Stilgherrian (@stilgherrian)

Wentworth Falls NSW AU

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January 26th, 2010

If anyone wants Harold Thomas’ address, it’s at http://bit.ly/6Lbsow where copyright issue is also re-stated. HT @middleclassgirl

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And @bleeters one has to copy the design to make a flag, yes. Only two flag-makers have been so licensed, apparently.

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OK @bleeters my “Thomas would not have approved is my assumption based on his previous on-record statements. I still think unlikely.

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@bleeters I think you’re confusing copyright (making copies of a design) with flag-raising (displaying a legit flag you bought)?

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Where Google failed (a little, in a PR sense) was by not making that point sufficiently clear or prominent in their blog posts etc.

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So Google did the RIGHT thing by not using the Aboriginal Flag in a way its creator and copyright-holder would not have approved.

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“Our flag is not a secondary thing. It stands on its own, not to be placed as an adjunct to any other thing,” Harold Thomas has said.

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I should mention that Google would likely NOT have received permission to use the image of the Aboriginal Flag…

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What the fuck is wrong with corporations? Why can’t you ever use concrete words and say what you actually mean? Arsehats!

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Google says they removed “copyright imagery”. http://bit.ly/8BlGsa Why didn’t they just say WHICH image? Could’ve avoided the problem.

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RT @firstdogonmoon: Why Google hates Australia http://bit.ly/61lvol [Fixed link, but for an update…]

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@blahjedi Any designer has copyright in their work. Wikipedia says Harold Thomas licensed the design to two flagmakers. http://bit.ly/4Q3m7F

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RT @firstdogonmoon: Why Google hates Australia http://bit.ly/8UvwTsm [Google’s was really quite disrespectful to the winner too.]

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Three charged following theft of flag from Newtown RSL. http://bit.ly/6p2Ggd

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Wed plan (late): Mostly desk-potter to clear inbox, minor to-dos; 1745 ABC Radio Statewide talking Google / censorship; quiet night?

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RT @renailemay: How do you know I’m not wearing a penguin suit right now? :) [I can tell. There’s always that special vibe…]

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@renailemay Good Fortune, Sir! You have just stirred the pot most awesomely!

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@renailemay But… but… but… Where is the penguin suit? YOU LIED TO ME!

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Hello? Surviving?

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WTF? “Muslim Driving School” is an actual TV program? On the BBC? http://bit.ly/97ybKA HT @megpickard http://bit.ly/bYkQwC

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@benharkin By default, Tweetdeck uses some non-Unicode font and can’t do other character sets. “Bogan by default.” You can change that.

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Emerges. With prejudice.

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Someome ought to tell the Sky News super that the Northern Territory isn’t a state.

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Mobile: Enmore Rd; King St; gym; lunch; etc. Attention limited.

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Congratulations to Marcus Westbury (@unsungsongs), Newcastle’s Citizen of the Year.

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“Who is a journalist? Yes it will matter…” This is a LIVE issue, folks. http://bit.ly/5CHPUD

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While we were all bleating on Twitter about Google, @ashermoses went and did some journalism. http://bit.ly/6noC6d

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RT @bleeters: Boggle and rage can appear so similar when not accompanied by facial expression and vocal inflection. [True, that.]

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Alas @earleyedition s42 of Copyright Act 1968 is a tad archaic. http://bit.ly/jDpzC Is TV news “a cinematograph film”?

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@bleeters Yes, you did come across as aggressive actually, or so I thought. But t’was a minor thing. :)

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@earleyedition Has anyone tested how small your reportage outlet has to be and still count as “news” for fair dealing under Copyright Act?

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@earleyedition The doodle breaches Thomas’ copyright no matter where shown, true. Reporting “this won” is fair dealing for news? [shrugs]

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@grantyoung It’s a no-win for Google. An emotive symbol, and a thousand ways to spin it into good guy vs bad guy.

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@grantyoung “Once more, white capitalists trample over the wishes of Aboriginal Australia.”

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@grantyoung Punters don’t understand copyright. They’d go for “disrespect for old Aboriginal bloke” and lots of angry shouting.

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@grantyoung ‘Who, I wonder, would have a go at Google for using that specific “copyright imagery”?’ Um, every media outlet in the country?

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@Nickhodge @anthonybaxter I think “investigative journalist” means more than just “looking stuff up first”. ;)

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@theburgerman I refer to the witch-hunt against Google, and how moral outrage must be redirected once Google appears less evil.

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@Nickhodge Please don’t cloud my head with facts kthxbai.

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@mrgrumpystephen “Intellectual examination” and “ill-informed ranting” are not the same thing. Generally.

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So @SnarkyPlatypus @Nickhodge is Cilmi some sort of newly-discovered “ladies’ disorder”? Is there an ointment?

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Gosh this is all so excitingly emotional and aggressive! And I didn’t even have to go to Cronulla!

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RT @GreenJ: … meanwhile the traditional oz day excitement continues: who will be Number Two on the JJJ hottest 100 for 2010?

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RT @GreenJ: Me, I look forward to an Australia Day not filled with discussion on the nature, meaning, import of Australia Day. [Ditto.]

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Indeed @bleeters the winner ‘s design breached copyright. Perhaps that wasn’t realised when that was announced? A cock-up, I suspect.

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Since someone else asked, Copyright Council’s overview of copyright exemptions such as “fair dealing”. http://bit.ly/8y2dtj

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