Stilgherrian (@stilgherrian)

Wentworth Falls NSW AU

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August 8th, 2014

Asher_Wolf Yes, this. RT @Jo_Tovey: Somewhere, George Brandis is quietly thanking the universe for Eric Abetz.

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funnytvvit I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and shit a better argument than that.

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@christopherneal It’s all good. I’m suddenly noticing my fatigue kick in, so I may call it quits soon anyway.

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apf_oz Our complaint to @OAICgov about the Dept of Health’s recent survey on SurveyMonkey privacy.org.au/Papers/OAIC-Do…

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@19bk69 @RealNickHodge Richard Gordon’s anaesthesia scale was much better. Three steps. Awake, asleep, dead.

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“A beginner’s guide to defensive tweeting”, by the inimitable @AndrewPStreet dailylife.com.au/news-and-views…

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@RealNickHodge No need. I already know the Bristol Scale. Ranging from 3 to 6.

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I feel that I should have some kind of social life before I head back to the Mountains this evening.

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@mpesce I discussed consistency with my doctor today. Subsequently, a stool sample was requested.

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@mpesce I tell people most things wrongly.

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@PeteLawler That’s OK, you’re not alone. Anyway, here’s hoping the computer continues to behave itself.

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@DamienCWalker @bigmac @mgherman Yeah I might piss off too many producers that way, as well as my doctor.

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5at5daily Correct link for “We’re Scared of the Wrong Things” in today’s email is medium.com/war-is-boring/…

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5at5daily 5at5 number 86: Attack helicopters, plane hijackers, brain-eating amoeba, fear … and is there a third NSA leakertinyletter.com/5at5/letters/5…fQ

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@bigmac @mgherman @DamienCWalker It’s a pub. I stepped outside and realised the traffic was louder than the music inside. Oops.

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@PeteLawler No offence taken. It’s simply that radio producers go with the known quantities. I’m sure you’re marvellous.

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About to talk metadata on ABC @936hobart, in 5 mins or so. You may listen live and be logged at abc.net.au/hobart/

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RT @bengrubb JOURNALIST: Can you explain to us what mega data is? The Government struggled with it… SHORTEN: Did you say ‘mega data’ then?

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Stand ready! There will be a new corruptednerds.com podcast on Tuesday.

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Stand ready! There will be a new “The 9pm Edict” podcast on Sunday.

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“We’re Scared of the Wrong Things”, freaking out over small threats, ignoring big ones. medium.com/war-is-boring/…

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I’ll be talking about metadata on ABC @936hobart at 1610 AEST, and you may listen live and be logged at abc.net.au/hobart/

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@19bk69 And everything else was just routine checks.

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@19bk69 Well that, yes. Standard viral throat infection. Cope, etc.

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I am told that there is nothing that can be done for me.

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All orifices successfully probed. Departing medical land.

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@936hobart I’ll return your phone call shortly, but yes we should be able to do something.

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Right, I am now heading into medico-pathology land. I shall be silent for a while. And then I’ll have my medication.

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@AtomicMPC I think we need the word “data-jaxie”. For obvious reasons.

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It’s OK, everyone, I’ll be seeing my doctor within the next few minutes. I’m sure he’ll prescribe something.

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PLEASE SPEAK CLEARLY INTO THE TEAPOT.

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I AM DECLARING A MAUVE ALERT!

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Pro Tip: Do not appoint me as Director-General of Security.

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If I were Irvine, the whole lot of ‘em would be in the back of the Transit van with canvas bags over their heads by now.

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Mind you, Irvine is in the unenviable position of being questioned by people unfamiliar with existing practices in search of controversy.

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The government could’ve saved a lot of confusion if they’d have put something specific on the table instead of Postmaster Brandis’ waffle.

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adambrereton Metadata is a meaningless concept anyway, as @GordyPls pointed out earlier theguardian.com/commentisfree/…

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@dannolan I’m going to need a clarifying glass or five after today.

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@will_ock You’re looking at the tunnel from the wrong end. They already know which site. They want to know who connected.

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thegrugq Metadata is data. It places other data in context. Frequently context is more important than content.

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I’ll wager that Irvine’s clarification of Turnbull’s clarification of Brandis will need some further clarification.

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RT @dobes: @stilgherrian there’s not enough cheap acid to fix this mess [I hear ya, brother!]

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@dobes Yeah, but do we want to take people down the OSI rabbit hole?

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If anyone knows of a clear, simple explanation of the IP model, please klet me know.

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Right, I think everyone needs a primer on transport layer versus application layer..en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_…6V

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So Irvine just directly contradicted the idea that it’s only about the IP connectivity logs. It DOES include application-level logs.

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dobes 0_o RT @reillystyley: “If you were sending an email from A to B, we would expect that information to be retained” — David Irvine, ASIO

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@BruceHore Nah, the news outlets always want to do :”edited highlights” based on their specific judgement, not the whole thing.

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Damn, I really wanted to record the audio of the entire presser, but that’s not possible where I am now. I hope some kind soul can save me.

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MsLods Irvine, ASIO: points to ASIO submission (no 27 here: aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_…) for ASIO’s wish list of metadata to be retained.

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@NewtonMark @BruceHore Yep, I would agree with that. “Listening” versus “asking for business records” in analog phone days.

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I’ve had to bail from watching the presser. I’m now waiting beneath the Beguiling Antlers.

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@NewtonMark @BruceHore It’s a fiction based on historical technology, as I’ve argued before.

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NewtonMark Metadata is an AGD fiction. It’s all data. Get a warrant. RT @BruceHore: Shouldn’t access to Metadata require judicial oversight as well?

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I wouldn’t have used the word “regime” just then, Mr Irvine. “Strict rules”, maybe?

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@chrisberg That said, with a permanent connection, the same IP address lease may be renewed every time, for months, until DHCP is rebooted.

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@chrisberg No, next layer up. Not the physical connection. Under DHCP protocol, you lease an IP address for a period of time. That.

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@McDermie @riskybusiness @joshgnosis Also, “criminal communication” [pace] used to require physical meetings back then.

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I think Irvine is being polite, saying he doesn’t understand the speculation and alarm, but he can’t really call his boss an arsehat.

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@riskybusiness @McDermie @joshgnosis Ah, we’re pretty much on the same page then. Class warrants or external review or whatever.

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@riskybusiness @McDermie @joshgnosis Ah, you see, I would like them to be warranted. But that’s a topic for another time.

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Irvine’s pocket handkerchief is rather snazzy.

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@McDermie @riskybusiness @joshgnosis By getting off their arses and going out to talk to people. Also, much more crime back then.

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@riskybusiness @McDermie @joshgnosis Yeah, I wonder whether a new legislation monitor will be appointed before or after this Bill drops.

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@riskybusiness @McDermie @joshgnosis Nah, ‘cos the ASIO Act proposals allow for classes of devices to be in a single warrant.

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RT @elronxenu: From Yes Minister: A clarification is not to make oneself clear, but to put oneself in the clear. [Oh yes, of course.]

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@riskybusiness @McDermie @joshgnosis Require a warrant for access and I’ll be an oiled little pleasure pig.

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Ah. Obama is authorising “targeted airstrikes” on Iraq to protect US assets and civilians. Brandis’ arse is saved for another day.

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@riskybusiness @McDermie @joshgnosis Agreed. DHCP logs are fine by me, and they can be explained so very easily. Muppets.

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I distance myself from @NewtonMark’s call for the Prime Minister to have the Attorney-General put down.

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@Bas_Abdo Funnily enough, there has been talk of such a thing…

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@riskybusiness @McDermie @joshgnosis Exactly. So why has it become such a fuckup? incompetent government “communication”.

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This is rather a lot of cleaning up after Brandis. Metadata. 18C. Bigots. He’ll be on a short leash. They should spread out some newspapers.

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So this would be ASIO and AFP clarifying the clarification of the clarification.

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BernardKeane ASIo and AFP holding a media conference at 11.30 to discuss data retention.

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“Last night you said you loved me and would support our child.” Ah, you misunderstood. I have now issued a clarifying statement.

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“Clarifying statement.” An irregular noun meaning the straight-up denial of saying something you said on record only the night before.

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drewsheldrick “It’s obvious there’s no link between abortion and breast cancer and Senator Abetz has released a clarifying statement this morning” -Dutton

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“Turnbull rules out browsing history for data retention”, writes @joshgnosis zdnet.com/au/turnbull-ru…

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SwiftOnSecurity I wish we could replace stolen laptop BIOS’s with this image. pic.twitter.com/LLL3byeFeu

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neetzan White House goes on lockdown after toddler squeezes thru gate, resulting in perfect USSS statement (ht @oliverdarcy): pic.twitter.com/mz5zxdMuXn

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rhysam Abbott government’s Science Minister revealed. pic.twitter.com/tvTPYmATmo

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@oberonsghost I’ll see how I go with the medico at (allegedly) midday in Darlinghurst. I’m also getting some pathology done, so maybe 1330+?

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@NickHodge____ @shiftkey I wish you all the best. You make a lovely couple.

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@cheshireb Alas I suspect I’ll be heading back by then. I also suspect I’ll be on antibiotics for this throat.

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jilliancyork In which @Bruce_Schneier posits that there’s a *third* leaker in the US intel community schneier.com/blog/archives/…

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Team Australia would put the envelop inside another envelope.

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So who’s taking me to lunch in Sydney today?

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newsyc100 CloudFlare enabling free SSL by mid-October bit.ly/1ouzmb7 (bit.ly/1oh3AUK)

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feed_the_chooks The Minister for Employment oversees the largest unemployment figures in 11 years, but would rather talk about the junk science of abortion

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“Minister Abetz denies making link between abortion and breast cancer”, though @amworldtodaypm plays the recording. abc.net.au/am/content/201…

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firstdogonmoon I’m about to complain about something really unimportant…

STAND BY INTERNET

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@blahjedi Apparently the first Turnbull knew about data retention going to cabinet was when he read it in the newspapers.

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All of Brandis’ and Abbott’s carry-on about envelopes is logically inconsistent with Turnbull’s statement about customer device IP logging.

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@dobes Oh dear. Nah, disagree with Pijin. If you understand something you can explain it with clarity.

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The transcript of @amworldtodaypm’s “Turnbull tries to clarify metadata retention policy” is up. abc.net.au/am/content/201…

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@jplonie @BruceHore @NewtonMark Look, I don’t know how these things work. It’s not my problem.

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@BruceHore @jplonie @NewtonMark I usually don’t get as far as names. They’re more fleeting encounters.

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@eightiestragic @naomiwoodley @BernardKeane Makes perfect sense. The IP address assigned to your device when you connect it to the internet.

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@gordonkerry Exactly that. All the signs so far are that most ministers discussing the subject were out of their depth.

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And the radio is done. A recording to appear on my website in due course.

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@justinchaschowy Yeah I kinda assume people have scroll bars and can look for stuff themselves. [Shrugs.]

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Shortly on @abcgoldcoast to talk about Facebook and this fake “Muslim” page. facebook.com/pages/Preservi… Listen live at abc.net.au/goldcoast/

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Seriously, do politicians actually believe that playground name-calling makes them look even remotely like someone adults would vote for?

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Some arsehat on radio just referred to Hockey as “Doctor No in opposition and now he’s Professor Blame Game”. Filing him under child-fool.

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Fri plan: 0840 @abcgoldcoast; 0924 train to Sydney; planning en route; 1200 doctor etc; lunch (who’s buying?); @5at5daily; return train TBA.

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Here’s the audio. “Turnbull clarifies metadata retention policy” abc.net.au/am/content/201… Transcript soon.

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@NewtonMark Yes. Yesterday I was trying to imagine Soapy in a CERT Australia briefing. A meeting of minds, what?

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I’ll be talking about Facebook takedowns in relation to that mosque on @abcgoldcoast at 0840 AEST. Listen in at abc.net.au/goldcoast/ (2/2)

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Gold Coast locals are objecting to a proposed mosque. goldcoastbulletin.com.au/news/gold-coas… Fake Facebook page ensues. facebook.com/pages/Preservi… (1/2)

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BernardKeane So with Turnbull this morning we’re now onto, by my count, the fifth definition of metadata in four days.

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jeamland Just to be safe, I’m switching to metametadata.

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@NewtonMark Turnbull says he spoke with the spooks [yesterday?].

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In any event, as I wrote yesterday at @zdnetaustralia, “Cyber defender Brandis is proving unfit for purpose” zdnet.com/cyber-defender…

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This interview with Turnbull was on @amworldtodaypm, so it’ll be here soon. abc.net.au/am/ Likely also repeated on the 0800 edition.

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@semibogan Nah, this would be presumably an amendment to the Telecommunications Intercept Act.

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Note for the hard of thinking: That I reject some of the more paranoid interpretations doesn’t mean I agree with the government’s plans.

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I do recommend listening to what Turnbull actually said, rather than reacting to third-hand Twitter paraphrases.

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Anyway, I’m sure @joshgnosis is writing up what Turnbull said as we speak. And the audio will be on the @RNBreakfast website shortly.

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Fuck I wish people would focus on what was actually said and is documented, rather than speculate based on their screechy hallucinations.

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@semibogan Sure, but if you have the logs or packets from the forum, you want the person who posted a comment from an IP address.

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@PeteLawler But you’re muddling what requires a warrant and what doesn’t.

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@PeteLawler Yeah, or just arrive with a warrant and a secrecy order and require the ISP to cooperate with an investigation.

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@PeteLawler Well, you’re not using the language in the legislation, but yes, that’s correct. “Access” needn’t require “hacking” though.

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@PeteLawler That’s already in the ASIO Act. The first tranche of legislation extends warrants from specific machines to classes of them.

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Since ASIO chief David Irvine is on record as saying they didn’t want “browsing history”, I’m inclined to think it’s the first one. Idiocy.

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… or an extremely rapid re-backflip by the government, realising that they’d over-reached. (2/2)

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My interpretation: This stuff about “sites” was either Brandis etc confusing an explanation of IP addresses with what spooks wanted… (1/2)

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What is being sought, my paraphrase, is which telco customer was assigned which IP address at a particular time.

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Turnbull: “The security agencies are not seeking that the government require telcos to keep … browsing history.”

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Turnbull is saying that ISPs will not be asked to capture something they’re not already capturing, just regularising the retention period.

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@joshgnosis Well, he’s not saying not that. He’s saying what will be. Subtle distinction. Like “primarily” an anti-terrorism measure.

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Well, Turnbull isn’t responding to that question. He’s going straight to sorting out the metadata definition mess.

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On @amworldtodaypm @RNBreakfast now, Turnbull is responding to claims he only found out about data retention plans by reading the paper.

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Fri plan, draft: 0924 train to Sydney; planning en route; 1200 doctor, pathology; lunch (who’s buying?); @5at5daily; return train TBA.

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“Brandis’ disastrous data definition reflects a confused government”, writes @BernardKeane crikey.com.au/2014/08/07/bra… [$, free trial]

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@bigrb @llament @zdnetaustralia This piece by @BernardKeane that I’m about to tweet looks at some of those very issues.

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TheOnion Latest Online Security Breach Forces Mom To Change Post-It onion.com/1mqnCqi pic.twitter.com/S0Mpl6rNF6

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@bigrb Maybe. Part of my brain says there must be categories of things things, but it’s too early and the rest of my brain isn’t listening.

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RT @leslienassar: @stilgherrian Business welfare is okay because fuck you, okay? [Yeah OK, you’ve convinced me. Pants removed.]

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Me at @zdnetaustralia: “Cyber defender Brandis is proving unfit for purpose” zdnet.com/cyber-defender…

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I gather the Business Council of Australia’s main purpose is to whinge about how everyone else should pay for businesses’ needs.

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If the Business Council of Australia wants people to study something other than what they want to study, then maybe they could pay them.

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@SnarkyPlatypus Bonjour. Je suis confus. J’attends le lever du soleil. Et vous?

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“Pelican enters rehab for series of picnic spot food thefts”, reports @abcnews abc.net.au/news/5656694

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jacobian I think my favorite thing about Bitcoin is the endless stream of opportunities for schadenfreude.

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Right. Time to get some scams into my portal.

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Friday. It’s the moment they’ve been waiting for, when you’re at your most vulnerable. They will pounce when you least expect. Friday.

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