The 9pm Nine Years of Nemesis and Chocolate Cake with Snarky Platypus

Promo image for ABC TV’s Nemesis showing Tony Abbott, Scott Morrison, and Malcolm Turnbull. (Photo: Australian Broadcasting Corporation) Inset: A platypus, but not that one. (Taronga Conservation Society Australia / Chris Wheeler)

It’s a marathon episode for serious political tragics! I’m joined by Snarky Platypus to discuss the ABC TV documentary series Nemesis about the three recent Liberal Party prime ministers of Australia. But we also find time to discuss other matters.

We talk about the complexities of Lunar New Year, comedians, absinthe, magpies, Prague, trifle, lab-grown meaty rice, and the frustrations of the job search process.

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The recording setup for this episode is spread out across a double bed. Nearest the camera are a MacBook Pro and a RØDE ProCaster mixer. The two microphones on desktop stands are Sennheiser e835 dynamic. Scattered around them are an old iPad, Sennheiser headphones, and Snarky Platypus’s MacBook Air. (Photo: Stilgherrian)

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  • A platypus of many talents. Interested in politics, food, pop music & basketball.
  • The Myers–Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) is a pseudoscientific self-report questionnaire that claims to indicate differing personality types.
  • Nemesis is a 2024 Australian three-part documentary series produced by ABC TV showcasing the Abbott, Turnbull and Morrison Governments and the leadership challenges these Prime Ministers faced. Nemesis interviewed key Coalition figures from the Liberal and National parties, including former Prime Ministers Malcolm Turnbull and Scott Morrison. Nemesis covers the period from Tony Abbott's election as Prime Minister in 2013 to 2022 when Morrison lost Government. Nemesis consists of more than 60 interviews with members of the Coalition Governments conducted by investigative reporter Mark Willacy. This program follows in the ABC's track record of having produced similar documentary series such as Labor in Power, The Howard Years and The Killing Season.
  • A landmark series taking you inside the recent Coalition government in a revealing tale of politics, ambition and power. Key players tell all in riveting no holds barred interviews.
  • THE ROAD TO RUIN: How Tony Abbott and Peta Credlin destroyed their own government
  • PLOTS AND PRAYERS: Malcolm Turnbull’s demise and Scott Morrison’s ascension
  • BULLDOZED: Scott Morrison’s fall and Anthony Albanese’s rise
  • National Energy Guarantee (NEG) was an energy policy proposed by the Turnbull government in late 2017 to deal with rising energy prices in Australia and lack of clarity for energy companies to invest in energy infrastructure. The policy specifically targets energy companies in the National Electricity Market and large energy users to have a reliability obligation as well as emissions reduction obligations.
  • Operation Sovereign Borders (OSB) is a border protection operation led by the Australian Border Force, aimed at stopping maritime arrivals of asylum seekers to Australia. The operation is the outcome of a 2013 federal election policy of the Coalition, which commenced on 18 September 2013 after the election of the Abbott government. The operation has implemented a "zero tolerance" posture towards what it has termed "Illegal Maritime Arrivals" ? a change in terminology from the previous government's "Irregular Maritime Arrivals" ? in Australia, in conjunction with mandatory detention in offshore detention facilities.
  • [6 September 2013] Speaking live to SBS from Penrith football stadium, Tony Abbott told SBS that public broadcasters will not see any cuts under an Abbott government. "No cuts to education, no cuts to health, no change to pensions, no change to the GST and no cuts to the ABC or SBS."
  • [15 February 2024] My Australian life only goes back to 1997. I met Abbott for coffee once. A consummate professional at sound bites, but no listener. Turnbull - massive dis’s appointment, but on reflection why? Morrison - ??????
  • Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 (MH17/MAS17) was a scheduled passenger flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur that was shot down by Russian-controlled forces on 17 July 2014, while flying over eastern Ukraine. All 283 passengers and 15 crew were killed.
  • With no contender, a February 2015 leadership spill motion had seen Abbott defeat a motion to spill the leadership 61 votes to 39.
  • 7.30 Report: Paul Lyneham chairs a debate between monarchist Tony Abbott and Republican Malcolm Turnbull, 30 July 1993.
  • [17 January 2022] Deputy PM says Campion said ‘yes’ at Coffs Harbour restaurant and if she hadn’t ‘I would still be at Latitude 30 getting smashed’
  • [15 February 2024] Forget Parliament House, the spot where Barnaby Joyce was caught on video lying on his back near a gutter has become one of Canberra’s most photographed landmarks. Footage showed the nation’s former deputy prime minister, 56, sprawled on the footpath at Lonsdale Street, in the suburb of Braddon last Wednesday at 11.26pm.
  • [16 February 2024] I had a long and genuinely fascinating conversation with Barnaby Joyce once. It was an interview, probably for some weekend feature at the Herald or the Age. They’d occasionally dispatch me on these missions if they had somebody who wouldn’t talk to anyone else at the paper. As ‘that Felafel guy’, I could be disarming. I forget why I was talking to Joyce, but he was a good storyteller, and he had the ability, unusual in politicians, to just talk like a normal person.
  • The Scott Morrison ministerial positions controversy, also known as the Morrison ministries scandal, was a major political scandal in Australia involving the government of Prime Minister Scott Morrison. The scandal developed following the 2022 Australian federal election, when it was revealed that Scott Morrison, while the Prime Minister of Australia, had himself secretly appointed to five ministerial positions without the knowledge of the public or his own government.
  • [February 2022] The worst Prime Minister in living memory shows off his ukulele skills. Please make it stop.
  • [9 January 2019] Australian PM admits his department doctored a family portrait (badly) to scrub out his old trainers.
  • ABC’s Nemesis is the fourth instalment of the public broadcaster’s post-mortem journalism documentaries on a previous federal government, this time giving us a peek into the lives and perspectives of those who ran the country during the Abbott, Turnbull and Morrison years. A concept for a television program that is immediately hurt by choosing a period in history that means all the main characters end up being a bunch of insufferable cunts.
  • [15 February 2024] Didion: “All stories, of course, depend for their popular interest upon the invention of personality, or “character,” but in the political narrative, designed as it is to maintain the illusion of “consensus” by obscuring rather than addressing actual issues, this invention served a further purpose.”
  • [27 October 1988] It occurred to me, in California in June and in Atlanta in July and in New Orleans in August, in the course of watching first the California primary and then the Democratic and Republican national conventions, that it had not been by accident that the people with whom I had preferred to spend time in high school had, on the whole, hung out in gas stations.
  • [15 February 2024] My question boils down to: cui bono? Who benefits from this program being made and aired, and how do they benefit, do you think?
  • Trifle is a layered dessert of English origin. The usual ingredients are a thin layer of sponge fingers or sponge cake soaked in sherry or another fortified wine, a fruit element (fresh or jelly), custard and whipped cream layered in that order in a glass dish. The contents of a trifle are highly variable and many varieties exist, some forgoing fruit entirely and instead using other ingredients, such as chocolate, coffee or vanilla.
  • 10 Russell Place, Melbourne VIC 3000. Open 365 days, 4pm to 3am.
  • [14 February 2024] Scientists have created a new type of hybrid food - a "meaty" rice that they say could offer an affordable and eco-friendly source of protein. The porous grains are packed with beef muscle and fat cells, grown in the lab. The rice was first coated in fish gelatine to help the beef cells latch on, and the grains were left in a petri dish to culture for up to 11 days.
  • [17 February 2024] The Lunar New Year isn't just about a lavish dinner, red packets of lucky cash and the lion and dragon parades in Chinatown. It can be pretty harsh when it comes to family gatherings for some young Asian people.
  • My name is He Huang, or even if you know Chinese, my name is  "??“. I dreamed of saving the world through research and development but got a reality check from statistics – turns out I'm more lost in numbers than a cat in a room full of laser pointers. Yeah, I'm so bad at math that my calculator laughs at me. Now, I'm on a quest to rescue my sanity, armed with terrible math skills and a microphone as a stand-up comedian. Who knew my struggle with numbers would add up to a career in comedy? My math teacher probably saw this coming.
  • Aaron Chen (born 1995) is an Australian comedian and actor from Sydney, Australia.
  • “Life is bristling with thorns, and I know no other remedy than to cultivate one’s garden.” — Voltaire “You are allowed to put whatever you like in your blurb. It doesn’t even have to describe the show.” — Aaron
  • Lucky were filmed.

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